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Originally Posted by paul4471
(Post 36062006)
I tried using the oneworld tool to set up a QF ticketed DONE5 but the system keeps on trying to force it to a DGLOB fare and telling me the miles are over even though the segments are only 15 and everything else seems in order. Is there some way to stop this happening or something I am doing wrong. Are you using the new beta tool or the old to arrange these?:
CAI-xAMM-xDOH-DPS-xKUL-NRT-xHKG-YVR-DFW-IAH-xDFW-SCL,GRU-xJFK-HEL-DOH I know this sounds crazy but did you try the AI-powered booking tool?
Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 36062064)
I've never gotten anything with RJ out of CAI to move to ticketing...that may be your issue.
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[QUOTE=izzik;36062430]If I had to guess, the tool doesn't like open jaw (ie, ending with a surface segment even though it's legal). If it encounters these kinds of quirks, it throws back a meaningless error like "too many miles".
Yep thanks so much that was it - the open jaw at the end! Time to get routing exact now. |
Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 36062064)
I've never gotten anything with RJ out of CAI to move to ticketing...that may be your issue.
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Perhaps CAi is not considered part of the Middle East and would not satisfy the ending requirement (within the Middle East)
Keep wandering Fred |
Originally Posted by wandering_fred
(Post 36062667)
Perhaps CAi is not considered part of the Middle East and would not satisfy the ending requirement (within the Middle East)
Keep wandering Fred From the rules: The continent of Europe-Middle East consists of 2 zones: o Europe (including Algeria, Morocco, Russia west of the Urals and Tunisia) o Middle East (including Egypt, Libya and Sudan) |
Hi Guys, For anyone looking at booking the CAI fares a point of reference. After a lot of messing with the tool I was successfully able to book the following itin:
CAI-MAD-DOH-DPS-KUL-TYO-CTS-HKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-DFW-SCL,GRU-DOH Total cost for 2 pax - $12,254AUD (base fare $4,444AUD each) - QF ticketed approx $4050USD all in for a DONE5. Can't imagine this will be around for long at that price |
Originally Posted by paul4471
(Post 36065474)
Hi Guys, For anyone looking at booking the CAI fares a point of reference. After a lot of messing with the tool I was successfully able to book the following itin:
CAI-MAD-DOH-DPS-KUL-TYO-CTS-HKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-DFW-SCL,GRU-DOH Total cost for 2 pax - $12,254AUD (base fare $4,444AUD each) - QF ticketed approx $4050USD all in for a DONE5. Can't imagine this will be around for long at that price |
Originally Posted by paul4471
(Post 36065474)
Hi Guys, For anyone looking at booking the CAI fares a point of reference. After a lot of messing with the tool I was successfully able to book the following itin:
CAI-MAD-DOH-DPS-KUL-TYO-CTS-HKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-DFW-SCL,GRU-DOH Total cost for 2 pax - $12,254AUD (base fare $4,444AUD each) - QF ticketed approx $4050USD all in for a DONE5. Can't imagine this will be around for long at that price |
Yeah sorry please see below
CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xKUL-TYO-CTS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-xDFW-SCL,GRU-DOH I can say for sure that the system would allow MAD as as stopover if needed. I tried SCL-LHR-CAI with and without it as a stopover and wouldn't work. I tried various options for a stopover in Europe on return and would not allow it kept saying I could only have 2 stopovers in origin region even when I had no stopovers in Europe middle east. I also couldn't get it to allow the final sector of DOH-CAI so left it as open jaw. Easy enough to pay final flight there if there's still good options out of CAi next year. I also tried SEA-DFW-SCL in various combinations and it failed but when I put in SEA-SCL it allowed it. Might be me but I couldn't see anything wrong with it. I also tried to have ANC in my itin but everything I tried failed I could get there but always told me the return was more than 2 sectors with ANC in it. Made no sense but I gave up. The other transit points on my itn I did not try as stopovers as did not need to stop but I suspect they would have been OK. Hope that helps |
Originally Posted by paul4471
(Post 36066006)
Yeah sorry please see below
CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xKUL-TYO-CTS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-xDFW-SCL,GRU-DOH I can say for sure that the system would allow MAD as as stopover if needed. I tried SCL-LHR-CAI with and without it as a stopover and wouldn't work. I tried various options for a stopover in Europe on return and would not allow it kept saying I could only have 2 stopovers in origin region even when I had no stopovers in Europe middle east. I also couldn't get it to allow the final sector of DOH-CAI so left it as open jaw. Easy enough to pay final flight there if there's still good options out of CAi next year. I also tried SEA-DFW-SCL in various combinations and it failed but when I put in SEA-SCL it allowed it. Might be me but I couldn't see anything wrong with it. I also tried to have ANC in my itin but everything I tried failed I could get there but always told me the return was more than 2 sectors with ANC in it. Made no sense but I gave up. The other transit points on my itn I did not try as stopovers as did not need to stop but I suspect they would have been OK. Hope that helps |
Hi, first time trying this, not sure if the nomenclature all correct, please bear with me
Sharing my routes for DONE3 xCai 1. CAI - JFK (RJ xAMM) 2. NWK - LAX (AS) 3. LAX - DFW (AA) 4. DFW - SFO (AA) 5. SFO - KUL (CX xHKG) 6. KUL - ICN (MH) 7. ICN - HND (JL) 8. NRT - KUL (MH) 9. KUL - VIE (QR xDOH) 10. VIE - DOH (QR) 11. DOH - CAI (QR) Questions, 1. I tried to add ANC into my US segment, but couldnt get it work, any advice? 2. Any chances to add more cities between 6 - 8, ie KUL - INC - Tokyo - KUL 3. In my final segment to CAI, initially I want to do VIE - CAI (xDOH), but system doesn't this, instead, it recommend me to add cities, either Doha, Madrid, or London. |
Originally Posted by kayzng
(Post 36066034)
Thanks, for SCL - GRU, are you using separate tickets?
Unless I'm mistaken there are no bookable OW options intra-South America on. XONEX ticket with maybe the exception of EZE-GRU on QR. Not sure if this can be booked as a standalone sector. It's prob as bad as Africa now for OW routes. |
Originally Posted by kayzng
(Post 36066053)
Hi, first time trying this, not sure if the nomenclature all correct, please bear with me
Sharing my routes for DONE3 xCai 1. CAI - JFK (RJ xAMM) 2. NWK - LAX (AS) 3. LAX - DFW (AA) 4. DFW - SFO (AA) 5. SFO - KUL (CX xHKG) 6. KUL - ICN (MH) 7. ICN - HND (JL) 8. NRT - KUL (MH) 9. KUL - VIE (QR xDOH) 10. VIE - DOH (QR) 11. DOH - CAI (QR) Questions, 1. I tried to add ANC into my US segment, but couldnt get it work, any advice? 2. Any chances to add more cities between 6 - 8, ie KUL - INC - Tokyo - KUL 3. In my final segment to CAI, initially I want to do VIE - CAI (xDOH), but system doesn't this, instead, it recommend me to add cities, either Doha, Madrid, or London. Sounds like you hit similar ANC problem as me |
Originally Posted by kayzng
(Post 36066053)
Hi, first time trying this, not sure if the nomenclature all correct, please bear with me
Sharing my routes for DONE3 xCai 1. CAI - JFK (RJ xAMM) 2. NWK - LAX (AS) 3. LAX - DFW (AA) 4. DFW - SFO (AA) 5. SFO - KUL (CX xHKG) 6. KUL - ICN (MH) 7. ICN - HND (JL) 8. NRT - KUL (MH) 9. KUL - VIE (QR xDOH) 10. VIE - DOH (QR) 11. DOH - CAI (QR) Questions, 1. I tried to add ANC into my US segment, but couldnt get it work, any advice? 2. Any chances to add more cities between 6 - 8, ie KUL - INC - Tokyo - KUL 3. In my final segment to CAI, initially I want to do VIE - CAI (xDOH), but system doesn't this, instead, it recommend me to add cities, either Doha, Madrid, or London. AA JFK-LAX will be a better choice than AS EWR-LAX; better lounges at JFK and AS seats are only recliner. |
Originally Posted by paul4471
(Post 36066006)
Yeah sorry please see below
CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xKUL-TYO-CTS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-SEA-xDFW-SCL,GRU-DOH <snip> CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-ANC-LAX-JFK-EZE,GRU-xDOH-HEL-DXB and it says it's valid on the build page (with well over 34k miles of course), then lets me pick all the flights but won't let me go further due to the 34k "limit". Same issue with this routing so it's not an ANC problem: CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-LAX-JFK-EZE,GRU-xDOH-HEL-DXB Likewise with this routing so it's not about the end of the itin either: CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-LAX-JFK-EZE,GRU-DOH And likewise with this routing so it's not about the transcon: CAI-xMAD-xDOH-DPS-xHKG-PER-SYD-DFW-JFK-EZE,GRU-DOH |
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