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kayzng Mar 10, 2024 5:11 pm


Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36069338)
No evidence of that. Still prices out lower for me.

that's good to hear, i am still attempting to get itinerary with actual travel dates

jerry a. laska Mar 10, 2024 5:49 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 36067539)
Where are you finding them?


Originally Posted by UserMark (Post 36067528)
AA still publishes CAI fares, but they are just ridiculously high. For example, DONE3 is $7306 with AA, $2629 with others.

UserMark I’m still interested in where you might be finding AA xonex fares ex-CAI. Do you have a travel agent that has access to these fares through another GDS? I called the AA rtw desk and they said they don’t have any AA fares for Egypt xonex fares which corresponds with EF not showing these fares.

iwillflytheworld Mar 10, 2024 6:57 pm


Originally Posted by zoombee (Post 36068850)
It sounds like you're adding in expensive segments in terms of YQ/surcharges. If you post what you're adding in someone might suggest which the culprits are and a possible alternative.


Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 36069213)
Which flights and airlines are you booking as part of the DONE4 as opposed to the DONE3? Note the base pricing for the DONE3 on the pricing page (not including the taxes and carrier surcharges) and then get your DONE4 to the pricing page and see if the base pricing goes up dramatically. I would guess that most of the change is taxes/carrier surcharges on the DONE4.

I don't think it's just YQ - the base fare becomes ridiculous. I'm essentially adding a roundtrip YVR-EZE-YVR to my (Europe, Asia, NA) DONE3.

zoombee Mar 10, 2024 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by iwillflytheworld (Post 36069585)
I don't think it's just YQ - the base fare becomes ridiculous. I'm essentially adding a roundtrip YVR-EZE-YVR to my (Europe, Asia, NA) DONE3.

You can see the base fare listed. Both kayzng and I have seen occasions where the base fare jumps. One time it seems to be by including HNL.

iwillflytheworld Mar 10, 2024 8:00 pm


Originally Posted by iwillflytheworld (Post 36069585)
I don't think it's just YQ - the base fare becomes ridiculous. I'm essentially adding a roundtrip YVR-EZE-YVR to my (Europe, Asia, NA) DONE3.

I think what triggers the reprice is backtracking from South America to North America. If I try doing NA-EZE-Europe, it prices correctly.

Unfortunately I do need to go back to NA (and to my understanding this is allowed by the OWE rules).

kayzng Mar 10, 2024 8:29 pm


Originally Posted by zoombee (Post 36069599)
You can see the base fare listed. Both kayzng and I have seen occasions where the base fare jumps. One time it seems to be by including HNL.

I am playing with manual page, it's now showing the previous price of 10-11k AUD for 2 pax DONE3

kayzng Mar 10, 2024 9:10 pm

manage to solve this


Your itinerary exceeds the 34,000 mile limit on a Business or First class booking. To finalise your itinerary, please reduce the length of your trip.
oneworld Explorer itinerary price from:Segments : 12 (max 16)

UserMark Mar 10, 2024 9:16 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 36069456)
UserMark I’m still interested in where you might be finding AA xonex fares ex-CAI. Do you have a travel agent that has access to these fares through another GDS? I called the AA rtw desk and they said they don’t have any AA fares for Egypt xonex fares which corresponds with EF not showing these fares.

I see the fares on sabre. Here are AA's D fares:
AA CAICAI.RW 10MAR24 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 DONE3 D¥R 7306.00 ---- -/¥ -/12M RW01
2 DGLOB34 D¥R 7924.00 ---- -/¥ -/12M RW02
3 DONE4 D¥R 7924.00 ---- -/¥ -/12M RW03
4 DONE5 D¥R 8149.00 ---- -/¥ -/12M RW04
5 DONE6 D¥R 9273.00 ---- -/¥ -/12M RW05

I don't 100% understand how the pricing works, but what I've seen is that the fare and validating carrier don't have to be the same airline. In theory you can have AA issue a ticket using another airline's fare, but it sounds like they don't even want to issue their own fare. I just play around with it till I see something I like. For example I think if you have CAI-LHR-BOS.... where the LHR-BOS is the AA flight number, sabre will use AA's fare, but if it's the IB flight number it will use the IB fare.

pandaperth Mar 10, 2024 10:45 pm

ex-CAI DONE5 booked and paid for; awaiting ticket issuance.

So this morning (Australian time) I bit the bullet and purchased my annual RTW ticket.
Even though I am unsure if I will be able travel it (dealing with a medical issue)
But I figured cancelling will only cost me 5% of the very low base fare
Whereas missing out on the great fare would cost me much more.
I had been playing with various ex-CAI itineraries for a while, and prior to the EGP devaluation the all-in cost was coming to around AUD12,500
The all-in cost of my ticket is ~AUD8,400. So a saving of about AUD4,000

ETA
So now it's close of business in Australia, and no email from Qantas with the eTicket
BUT checking the booking on web sites of airlines in the ticket AA and MH show the itinerary is ticketed, complete with ticket number and all segments confirmed :tu:

danger Mar 10, 2024 11:21 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 36069938)
ex-CAI DONE5 booked and paid for; awaiting ticket issuance.

So this morning (Australian time) I bit the bullet and purchased my annual RTW ticket.
Even though I am unsure if I will be able travel it (dealing with a medical issue)
But I figured cancelling will only cost me 5% of the very low base fare
Whereas missing out on the great fare would cost me much more.
I had been playing with various ex-CAI itineraries for a while, and prior to the EGP devaluation the all-in cost was coming to around AUD12,500
The all-in cost of my ticket is ~AUD8,400. So a saving of about AUD4,000

Did you ticket with QF? QF is pricing a DONE4 for me ex-CAI. The first quote was over AUD14K, despite QF correctly quoting the base fare as AUD43xx so it's being looked at again.

Are you certain it's only 5% of the base fare and not the whole thing?
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kayzng Mar 10, 2024 11:25 pm


Originally Posted by danger (Post 36069979)
Did you ticket with QF? QF is pricing a DONE4 for me ex-CAI. The first quote was over AUD14K, despite QF correctly quoting the base fare as AUD43xx so it's being looked at again.

Are you certain it's only 5% of the base fare and not the whole thing?
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are you using oneworld page to book?
i am getting the below, still finalizing some dates, yet to book

2 Adult(s) 2 x 3,984.00 AUD 2 x 1,258.40 AUDDetails 10,484.80 AUD

danger Mar 10, 2024 11:37 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36069982)
are you using oneworld page to book?
i am getting the below, still finalizing some dates, yet to book

No, the tool is doing my head in. Multiple errors like the 'over 34K' one and it will only offer me RJ via AMM when my first segment is CAI-DOH.

I've spoken to Qantas in Hobart. It's being pieced together manually. That's a very good fare, though. Very cheap taxes. Was it done using the tool? Would you like to share your routing?

kayzng Mar 10, 2024 11:43 pm


Originally Posted by danger (Post 36069993)
No, the tool is doing my head in. Multiple errors like the 'over 34K' one and it will only offer me RJ via AMM when my first segment is CAI-DOH.

I've spoken to Qantas in Hobart. It's being pieced together manually. That's a very good fare, though. Very cheap taxes. Was it done using the tool? Would you like to share your routing?

I am using the default page https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw
CAI - xMAD - PRG (IB)
PRG - xDOH - KUL (QR)
KUL - NRT (MH)
HND - GMP (JL)
ICN - KUL (MH)
KUL - xHKG - LAX (CX)
LAX - SFO (AA)
SFO - JFK (AA)
JFK - DFW (AA)
DFW - DOH (QR)

danger Mar 10, 2024 11:55 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36070001)
I am using the default page https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw
CAI - xMAD - PRG (IB)
PRG - xDOH - KUL (QR)
KUL - NRT (MH)
HND - GMP (JL)
ICN - KUL (MH)
KUL - xHKG - LAX (CX)
LAX - SFO (AA)
SFO - JFK (AA)
JFK - DFW (AA)
DFW - DOH (QR)

Very nice. Your low taxes got me looking into mine. If I've understood them correctly, CAI-xDOH has a combined YQ and YR of AUD1060, but having a stop in DOH drops it to just AUD655.

steveholt Mar 11, 2024 12:04 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 36069993)
No, the tool is doing my head in. Multiple errors like the 'over 34K' one and it will only offer me RJ via AMM when my first segment is CAI-DOH.

I've spoken to Qantas in Hobart. It's being pieced together manually. That's a very good fare, though. Very cheap taxes. Was it done using the tool? Would you like to share your routing?

You can't fly QR as the first leg of your RTW.


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