AONE4 from Khartoum
Dec 15, 2012, 2:49 pm
#466
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In Amman now at the transfer desk - they said it would be fine to transit without visa. Will ask on the ground soon.
In Amman now at the transfer desk - they said it would be fine to transit without visa. Will ask on the ground soon.
Dec 15, 2012, 11:11 pm
#467
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
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In any case I'm not clever enough to make use of your kind suggestion (likewise have never gotten a glimmer of what the YQ-dump folks are on about), but thanks for trying.
Dec 16, 2012, 2:02 am
#468
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Dec 16, 2012, 4:35 am
#469
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Maybe, maybe not, the revenue managers will eventually find the fares, though I do agree a sudden increase in fares from KRT no doubt rose a flag somewhere, albeit the other starting point somewhat south has still not been touched
Dec 16, 2012, 6:08 am
#470
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
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Point being not that the revenue managers wouldn't notice a surge in business and react appropriately, but that without the open discussion and assistance to wannabe travelers (which I'm freely part of, when I can help) there would have been less of a surge thus nothing for the managers to manage.
Dec 16, 2012, 9:18 am
#471
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
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Great advice especially for 'mistake' fares, a bit less for merely 'good deal' tho I"ve long believed that if FT/OW/xONEx discussions hadn't existed AONE3 would still be usd $6-8k from a variety of places.
In any case I'm not clever enough to make use of your kind suggestion (likewise have never gotten a glimmer of what the YQ-dump folks are on about), but thanks for trying.
In any case I'm not clever enough to make use of your kind suggestion (likewise have never gotten a glimmer of what the YQ-dump folks are on about), but thanks for trying.
Dec 16, 2012, 12:15 pm
#472
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Here now in KRT. Trip went very smoothly. However I still couldn't figure out how one would do transit wo a visa as no one I met spoke English enough to tell me. The airport is modern and not bad at all for sub saharan Africa.
Here now in KRT. Trip went very smoothly. However I still couldn't figure out how one would do transit wo a visa as no one I met spoke English enough to tell me. The airport is modern and not bad at all for sub saharan Africa.
Dec 16, 2012, 11:39 pm
#473
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I missed the KRT origination. Pain enough in positioning and immigration issues that I dragged my feet even for a super-cheap RTW fare, no interest for a so-so biz r/t. If not absolutely tied to OW miles accumulation, might as well take a ride with TK for about the same price (some days).
Dec 16, 2012, 11:51 pm
#474
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In the lounge in Amman now post Khartoum. The process was rather easy for my one and night stay (aside from the visa beforehand). Khartoum is about average for African cities. Meroe in the north makes a lovely and very safe day trip. I ate some nice goat and chicken for dinner and was back at the airport this am. No problems at all though it helped to have printed itineraries beforehand.
The Germany Guesthouse was also excellent with pickup to/from KRT as well as sorting my day trip.
US bound now for the 14 hour AMM-ORD flight.
In the lounge in Amman now post Khartoum. The process was rather easy for my one and night stay (aside from the visa beforehand). Khartoum is about average for African cities. Meroe in the north makes a lovely and very safe day trip. I ate some nice goat and chicken for dinner and was back at the airport this am. No problems at all though it helped to have printed itineraries beforehand.
The Germany Guesthouse was also excellent with pickup to/from KRT as well as sorting my day trip.
US bound now for the 14 hour AMM-ORD flight.
Dec 17, 2012, 3:58 am
#475
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Dec 17, 2012, 10:23 am
#476
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
Programs: Lots of faux metal
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I missed the KRT origination. Pain enough in positioning and immigration issues that I dragged my feet even for a super-cheap RTW fare, no interest for a so-so biz r/t. If not absolutely tied to OW miles accumulation, might as well take a ride with TK for about the same price (some days).
I'm just trying to help out anyone that purchased via the online portal and had to finish in KRT to get it to ticket.
Dec 17, 2012, 5:33 pm
#477
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Which is way I stated in my orginal post:
I, too, have no intention of mobilizing to KRT for this fare, but $2,400 for over 18,000 miles in J isn't usually considered so-so. Compared to the now gone AONE maybe.
I'm just trying to help out anyone that purchased via the online portal and had to finish in KRT to get it to ticket.
I, too, have no intention of mobilizing to KRT for this fare, but $2,400 for over 18,000 miles in J isn't usually considered so-so. Compared to the now gone AONE maybe.
I'm just trying to help out anyone that purchased via the online portal and had to finish in KRT to get it to ticket.
Dec 18, 2012, 6:57 pm
#478
Join Date: Jul 2004
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In the lounge in Amman now post Khartoum. The process was rather easy for my one and night stay (aside from the visa beforehand). Khartoum is about average for African cities. Meroe in the north makes a lovely and very safe day trip. I ate some nice goat and chicken for dinner and was back at the airport this am. No problems at all though it helped to have printed itineraries beforehand.
The Germany Guesthouse was also excellent with pickup to/from KRT as well as sorting my day trip.
US bound now for the 14 hour AMM-ORD flight.
In the lounge in Amman now post Khartoum. The process was rather easy for my one and night stay (aside from the visa beforehand). Khartoum is about average for African cities. Meroe in the north makes a lovely and very safe day trip. I ate some nice goat and chicken for dinner and was back at the airport this am. No problems at all though it helped to have printed itineraries beforehand.
The Germany Guesthouse was also excellent with pickup to/from KRT as well as sorting my day trip.
US bound now for the 14 hour AMM-ORD flight.
Dec 18, 2012, 7:02 pm
#479
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 323
So, a quick question around changing an issued DONEx ...
I wanted to make a minor change to the routing of my DONE4 ex-KRT, and I spoke to the RTW desk who advised:
1. I can make date & time changes free of charge (which I knew)
2. If I want to make ANY routing changes before my first departure, the whole ticket will be re-priced and the new ex-KRT fare will be applicable (in addition to the $125 service fee)
3. If I make the routing change after my first departure, taxes will be recalculated however the original fare price will be honored (and of course, the $125 service fee will still be applicable).
Interestingly, he did recommend NOT making any routing changes. He was aware of the pricing exception, and that AA was honoring these tickets, however he seemed to imply that it wouldn't be a good idea for pricing/accounting to have these tickets come through their desk again.
Thoughts?
I wanted to make a minor change to the routing of my DONE4 ex-KRT, and I spoke to the RTW desk who advised:
1. I can make date & time changes free of charge (which I knew)
2. If I want to make ANY routing changes before my first departure, the whole ticket will be re-priced and the new ex-KRT fare will be applicable (in addition to the $125 service fee)
3. If I make the routing change after my first departure, taxes will be recalculated however the original fare price will be honored (and of course, the $125 service fee will still be applicable).
Interestingly, he did recommend NOT making any routing changes. He was aware of the pricing exception, and that AA was honoring these tickets, however he seemed to imply that it wouldn't be a good idea for pricing/accounting to have these tickets come through their desk again.
Thoughts?
Dec 18, 2012, 7:20 pm
#480
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So, a quick question around changing an issued DONEx ...
I wanted to make a minor change to the routing of my DONE4 ex-KRT, and I spoke to the RTW desk who advised:
1. I can make date & time changes free of charge (which I knew)
2. If I want to make ANY routing changes before my first departure, the whole ticket will be re-priced and the new ex-KRT fare will be applicable (in addition to the $125 service fee)
3. If I make the routing change after my first departure, taxes will be recalculated however the original fare price will be honored (and of course, the $125 service fee will still be applicable).
Interestingly, he did recommend NOT making any routing changes. He was aware of the pricing exception, and that AA was honoring these tickets, however he seemed to imply that it wouldn't be a good idea for pricing/accounting to have these tickets come through their desk again.
Thoughts?
I wanted to make a minor change to the routing of my DONE4 ex-KRT, and I spoke to the RTW desk who advised:
1. I can make date & time changes free of charge (which I knew)
2. If I want to make ANY routing changes before my first departure, the whole ticket will be re-priced and the new ex-KRT fare will be applicable (in addition to the $125 service fee)
3. If I make the routing change after my first departure, taxes will be recalculated however the original fare price will be honored (and of course, the $125 service fee will still be applicable).
Interestingly, he did recommend NOT making any routing changes. He was aware of the pricing exception, and that AA was honoring these tickets, however he seemed to imply that it wouldn't be a good idea for pricing/accounting to have these tickets come through their desk again.
Thoughts?
2. Correct. Trying to alter the routing before you begin your xonex will result in repricing and reissuing of the ticket. Since the price has changed this is a good reason not to change the ticket until you begin flying.
3. Correct.