AONE4 from Khartoum
Apr 5, 2012, 12:08 pm
#166
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
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Apr 6, 2012, 8:52 am
#167
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QR GLD; Bonvoy LT TIT
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Update: made it safe and sound with no problems at all. ... The trick is to arrange an "airport entry permit" -- in advance -- instead of a visa. This then allows you to get a visa on arrival, regardless of nationality, and with only a short wait when you get there. ... Anyway, it took a while to make it happen, but I'm glad it worked out. If anyone has any questions, I'm happy to help if I can.
Apr 6, 2012, 8:57 am
#168
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: PDX and Everywhere
Programs: *Alliance, OneWorld
Posts: 248
Based on your experience, how smoothly do you think that it would go to start an xONEx from KRT without actually entering the country, -- just arriving and leaving, say, from and to LHR? Can you use an "airport entry permit" to get there, but then just not go through immigration?
1) Very limited RJ flight times on the only OneWorld flight (approx. 6:30am departure)
2) You'd probably have to pay the same amount of money in terms of arranging the permit whether you stayed or transited -- so might as well stay a day or two.
Of course, if you don't care about seeing Khartoum and don't mind hanging out in the terminal all night (very limited facilities), you could probably arrive late at night and begin the xONEx in the early a.m.
Apr 6, 2012, 10:16 am
#169
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: PDX and Everywhere
Programs: *Alliance, OneWorld
Posts: 248
Sorry, I missed this question earlier. I bought the ticket through AA in advance, not in KRT itself. Due to sanctions, most credit cards aren't usable anywhere in Sudan... so that would indeed be a lot of cash to carry!
Apr 6, 2012, 1:46 pm
#171
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 2,637
Did you buy the tix from AA in Canada? According to EF, the amount for xONEx in $C is less than $US, even though the 2 currencies are roughly the same vlaue.
Apr 6, 2012, 1:58 pm
#172
Moderator, OneWorld
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
Programs: RAA RIP; AA ExEXP
Posts: 11,803
AONE4 Ex-RUH: USD 9089
AONE4 Ex-KRT: USD 7584
Taxes and fees will be entirely dependent on the routing and choice of carriers. Since RJ is the only OW carrier serving KRT, if you use the online booking tool the ticket would be issued by American Airlines, which does so on behalf of RJ for online bookings. Having the ticket issued on BA stock would mean BA does the issuing, which would also mean that you'd be charged BA-imposed fuel surcharges for the entire itinerary.
As a rough rule of thumb, on itineraries I've recently priced using RJ for the first segment (e.g. ex-AMM, for example AMM-ORD-XXX) fees and taxes for a DONE3 have totaled around 10% of the base fare, i.e. around $600 on a ticket costing $6200.
For similar itineraries originating in TLV (same base price) but where BA was the first segment, and therefore the issuer (e.g. TLV-LHR-XXX) the taxes and fees have been more than twice that, right around 20% of the base fare. Of course stopovers in high-tax locations, like LHR, will only add to the total.
So I would say that asking for an ex-KRT trip on BA ticket stock will go a long way to reducing the cost advantage created by KRT in the first place.
Apr 8, 2012, 1:16 am
#174
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: ORD
Programs: BA, AA, SQ, UA, AC, WS, MR TIT
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Is it possible to book a AONE3 Ex-KHARTOUM with the following routing:
KRT-AMM-DXB-LHR-MIA-LAX-SFO-NRT-HKG-LHR-AUH.
as KRT is in the same region as LHR and DXB would the above routing qualify the ticket to be AONE3 ?
KRT-AMM-DXB-LHR-MIA-LAX-SFO-NRT-HKG-LHR-AUH.
as KRT is in the same region as LHR and DXB would the above routing qualify the ticket to be AONE3 ?
Apr 8, 2012, 9:28 am
#175
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: PDX and Everywhere
Programs: *Alliance, OneWorld
Posts: 248
Everything went well and my AONE4 is now paused for a while. Looking forward to the LAX-MEL and SYD-HKG flights later in the year.
Apr 8, 2012, 10:08 pm
#176
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: HKG
Posts: 1,315
I can attest that deepbluesky's trick is awesome. ^
Apr 16, 2012, 9:37 pm
#178
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,467
Seems like the perfect place to ask this questions... If I purchase a ex-KRT AONE4 and I want to add LHR-DME-LHR in first I recall reading there's a US$750 per sector surcharge. Do you get a currency advantage buying an ex-KRT fare (in my case through AA RTW desk or via Canadian TA) for these extra sectors or is it literally US$750 a pop?
Also, does this mean you are allowed to go above 16 segments? If so, does that force you onto a paper ticket?
Cheers!
Also, does this mean you are allowed to go above 16 segments? If so, does that force you onto a paper ticket?
Cheers!
- You cannot purchase additional flight segments in the continent of origin
- An additional first class segment costs USD750, no matter where and in what currency you purchase the ticket
- You cannot go above 16 segments in total, even when purchasing additional segments
Apr 19, 2012, 8:26 pm
#180
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Is there enough time to arrive KRT on the inbound RJ ex-AMM and then turn right around and return to AMM on the same a/c? I think that the schedule shows something like 1:30 on the ground. That's technically not a TWOV, -- would KRT authorities allow it? I'm looking at an August, 2012 start if I do this.