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Live4Miles Jan 25, 2007 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by rwill11 (Post 7091590)
Makes my back ache just thinking about it :D

Through 1-14-07 I'm on pace to get 920,947EQM's for 2007!;)

SchmutzigMSP Jan 25, 2007 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by rwill11 (Post 7091766)
You only need 100k for top tier status on UA or AA and you get 6 or 8 swu's

We've been over this. UA has more seats across the water, period. UA also has a lesser C product than NW. Unfortunately you can't have the best of programs. Take the good and the bad from each program.

Moving on...

rwill11 Jan 25, 2007 12:30 pm


Originally Posted by SchmutzigMSP (Post 7091862)
We've been over this. UA has more seats across the water, period. UA also has a lesser C product than NW. Unfortunately you can't have the best of programs. Take the good and the bad from each program.

Moving on...

you always say this. Its hypocrytical. UAs C class is just as good as FC in the dc-10s that you RAVE about. You also always leave out the fact that UA has another cabin in front of C thats equal or better than NWs wbc

SchmutzigMSP Jan 25, 2007 12:37 pm


Originally Posted by rwill11 (Post 7091949)
you always say this. Its hypocryticle. UAs C class is just as good as FC in the dc-10s that you RAVE about.

Words in my mouth. When do I RAVE about FC in the DC-10s? I've only been in them twice!

Originally Posted by rwill11 (Post 7091949)
You also always leave out the fact that UA has another cabin in front of C thats equal or better than NWs wbc

Yes, but to get to UA F, you need to be on a paid C ticket to use the precious SWUs. The only way to compare apples-to-apples is to do Coach->Business upgrades.

Unfortunately NW does not have a 3-cabin system or nearly as many seats as UA. But NW competes very well, if not better when put head-to-head with the same C cabin on another airline.

kb1992 Jan 25, 2007 12:42 pm


Originally Posted by SchmutzigMSP (Post 7091990)
Words in my mouth. When do I RAVE about FC in the DC-10s? I've only been in them twice!

Here we go again... Schmutzig vs rwill, Round N. :D :D


Originally Posted by SchmutzigMSP (Post 7091990)
but to get to UA F, you need to be on a paid C ticket to use the precious SWUs

Seriously, you could book award tickets. UA's F to Asia costs same as NW's WBC: 120,000 miles.

trekwars2000 Jan 25, 2007 12:43 pm


Originally Posted by rwill11 (Post 7091949)
You also always leave out the fact that UA has another cabin in front of C thats equal or better than NWs wbc

That also costs 4x the amount of NWA's J cabin.

rwill11 Jan 25, 2007 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 7092015)
Here we go again... Schmutzig vs rwill, Round N. :D :D



Seriously, you could book award tickets. UA's F to Asia costs same as NW's WBC: 120,000 miles.

Yeah and its easy to get an award in F. vs NWs tight inventory

kb1992 Jan 25, 2007 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by trekwars2000 (Post 7092020)
That also costs 4x the amount of NWA's J cabin.

Not always...

NW BOS-NRT in J $8,000
UA BOS-NRT in F $13,000

rwill11 Jan 25, 2007 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 7092036)
Not always...

NW BOS-NRT in J $8,000
UA BOS-NRT in F $13,000

so whats the c fare?

kb1992 Jan 25, 2007 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by rwill11 (Post 7092062)
so whats the c fare?

UA BOS-NRT in C: $9,000

(Random check for April 2007 dates)

rwill11 Jan 25, 2007 12:56 pm


Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 7092076)
UA BOS-NRT in C: $9,000

(Random check for April 2007 dates)

Looks like NW wins this one.........Unless you get a $950 W fare and use a swu up to C and eat the same filet mignon as F :p

kb1992 Jan 25, 2007 12:57 pm

I also saw NW is selling Z fares BOS-MSP-PDX-NRT for $5,300.

kb1992 Jan 25, 2007 1:01 pm


Originally Posted by rwill11 (Post 7092108)
Looks like NW wins this one.........

No. I don't think that NW wins necessarily.

UA is selling a worse product at a higher price. :confused:

In fact, thezipper and I both noticed that UA's C costs more than NW's WBC on the China routes. A sign of NW's losing premium pax, perhaps.

sany2 Jan 25, 2007 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by rwill11 (Post 7091766)
check your math. A Z fare would be more of a real number. then subtract the low fare from Z. then subtract the cost of 85k past Plat to hit 160k. Im telling ya. buying a Z fare is cheaper than flying an extra 85k to get some swu's. You only need 100k for top tier status on UA or AA and you get 6 or 8 swu's EDIT For example I just looked at DTW_AMS 1oct-8oct
Z fare was 2631 lowest fare was 1033, so 2 swu's are worth $800 bucks each on that flight. When you add in how much it costs to get to the point of getting 2 swu's they are basically not cost affective.

From what I read, these SWUs book into C.

Lowest coach fare on NW, DTW-DEL for a date I'm traveling this summer- 1773.20

Z fare- not available

C fare- 7180

money saved- 5406



DTW-NRT flight I have booked

lowest coach fare (direct flight) - 1260

Lowest Z fare- not available

lowest C fare- 8950

money saved- $7700

total money I would have saved- $13000

I did my math correctly.

trekwars2000 Jan 25, 2007 1:06 pm


Originally Posted by rwill11 (Post 7092108)
Looks like NW wins this one.........Unless you get a $950 W fare and use a swu up to C and eat the same filet mignon as F :p

What is BOS-NRT in NWA V class?


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