TOPIC: Strike as a General Issue >> Your Thoughts
Aug 20, 2005 | 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by LTRS
Yes, I definitely AM depriving NW of revenue, and very deliberately. As we are constantly reminded, we have choices when we fly, and I'll not spend my dollars with a company who expects their workers to give up pensions, insurance, and accept huge pay cuts to make up for executive mismanagement.
BTW: Management alone didn't get the airline industry into the position they are in today....the unions could have very easily said "no, please, don't pay us so much, don't agree to our demands for strict work rules, we want the airline to survive"
Aug 20, 2005 | 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by LTRS
I don't belong to any union. I own a business that realizes that the people who work for it are our greatest asset and deserve to be treated well, for their sakes AND the sake of the business.
As any student of history knows, if it weren't for unions the standard of living in this country would not be anywhere near what it is. We'd all still be working for slave wages like in the days of the robber barons. Unfortunately a lot of people aren't very good students of history and forget that. Either that, or they have a "well I got mine, too bad for you" mentality.
As any student of history knows, if it weren't for unions the standard of living in this country would not be anywhere near what it is. We'd all still be working for slave wages like in the days of the robber barons. Unfortunately a lot of people aren't very good students of history and forget that. Either that, or they have a "well I got mine, too bad for you" mentality.
Aug 20, 2005 | 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by LTRS
They agreed to over $100 million in concessions. I admire them for saying enough is enough.
Aug 20, 2005 | 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by SRQ Guy
I have about $20k left for the year. I'll throw most of that to them.
Aug 20, 2005 | 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by LTRS
You want to know real hysteria? Imagine your insurance contribution is cut by 50%, your pension done away with, and your boss telling you that as of tomorrow you are going to make 25% less while half of your co-workers are laid off (so you'll be doing double the work).
It's extremely easy to say "oh well, tough luck, don't be so hysterical about it" when it's not happening to you. At least for some people, apparently.
It's extremely easy to say "oh well, tough luck, don't be so hysterical about it" when it's not happening to you. At least for some people, apparently.
Aug 20, 2005 | 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by H2O_Goalie
Great...they said "enough is enough". The trouble is:
1. The airline doesn't think that's enough.
2. The airline can very likely replace them and continue operations.
But I hear that McDonald's and Caribou are hiring.
1. The airline doesn't think that's enough.
2. The airline can very likely replace them and continue operations.
But I hear that McDonald's and Caribou are hiring.
Aug 20, 2005 | 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by socrates
So you're suggesting that we all believe that you are paying union scale?
Aug 20, 2005 | 9:55 am
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Originally Posted by SRQ Guy
Darn, if it only weren't for those pesky competitors. LOL!
Aug 20, 2005 | 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by SRQ Guy
Darn, if it only weren't for those pesky competitors. LOL!
Aug 20, 2005 | 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by LTRS
Great! Be sure to pick up about $9K worth to make up for me.
PS It's actually 2...that should more than cover your $9K
Aug 20, 2005 | 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by LTRS
Excellent! Hopefully, that $20K you spent to support union busting will someday pay off and you too will be able to experience the joy of losing a pension, 25% of your salary, and paying 50% more for basic health benefits for the privelege of working for management that make sure their pockets are lined with gold. Good luck with that.
Aug 20, 2005 | 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by socrates
So you're saying you're taking Amtrak instead?
BTW: Management alone didn't get the airline industry into the position they are in today....the unions could have very easily said "no, please, don't pay us so much, don't agree to our demands for strict work rules, we want the airline to survive"
BTW: Management alone didn't get the airline industry into the position they are in today....the unions could have very easily said "no, please, don't pay us so much, don't agree to our demands for strict work rules, we want the airline to survive"
"Eagan-based Northwest Airlines is taking heat from laid-off workers, union leaders and even Gov. Tim Pawlenty over executive pay increases. Last week, Northwest announced it was cutting nearly 5,000 jobs due to the war in Iraq. Less than a week later, the company disclosed its two top executives saw pay increases last year totalling nearly $2 million, a year the company lost almost $800 million."
Aug 20, 2005 | 10:01 am
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Originally Posted by LTRS
People are a company's greatest asset.
Aug 20, 2005 | 10:01 am
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Originally Posted by mjcasta
Do I support this strike?? I honestly do not believe there was a choice. .
Yes, absolutely, there was a choice. Unfortunately, the wrong choice was made by the union!
Aug 20, 2005 | 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by LTRS
I have a better idea -- why doesn't management take a cut?
"Eagan-based Northwest Airlines is taking heat from laid-off workers, union leaders and even Gov. Tim Pawlenty over executive pay increases. Last week, Northwest announced it was cutting nearly 5,000 jobs due to the war in Iraq. Less than a week later, the company disclosed its two top executives saw pay increases last year totalling nearly $2 million, a year the company lost almost $800 million."
"Eagan-based Northwest Airlines is taking heat from laid-off workers, union leaders and even Gov. Tim Pawlenty over executive pay increases. Last week, Northwest announced it was cutting nearly 5,000 jobs due to the war in Iraq. Less than a week later, the company disclosed its two top executives saw pay increases last year totalling nearly $2 million, a year the company lost almost $800 million."
So how many times greater is your salary than your lowest paid employee?