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GUWonder Dec 17, 2021 11:19 am


Originally Posted by vanillabean (Post 33821048)
Ouch. Vast restrictions from this Sunday until January 17.

Overblik: Kultur- og nattelivet lukker ned
https://www.tv2ostjylland.dk/oestjyl...vet-lukker-ned

What I don't see mentioned is border controls to try to dissuade Danes from going shopping and playing abroad:


Closed businesses: Arcades, casinos, play and bathing lands, amusement parks, fairs and facilities for conferences/lectures

Closed cultural venues: Theaters, cinemas, museums, art galleries, culture houses, assembly houses, folk high schools, banquet facilities, zoological facilities, aquariums, venues for various events and sporting events with paying spectators

Restaurants: Restaurants must stop serving alcohol at 10pm and close at 11pm
General ban on the sale of alcohol from 10pm to 5am
Indoor area requirements of 2 sq. meters per guest for seated patrons and 4 sq. meters for standing patrons
Requirements for masks or visors for staff with customer contact, regardless of whether they can present coronapass
Requirements for setting up informational material from the National Board of Health and requirements for hand alcohol.


Other recommendations: The requirement for a face mask is extended to venues in the cultural and business arena where there is public access. For example, educational institutions, driving schools, take-away places and places of worship.
Indoor space requirements in retail and for places of worship and religious services.
Requirement for seat tickets and coronapass for intercity and intercity light rail as well as requirements for coronapass on long-distance buses.
Workplaces are recommended to encourage work-from-home.
Limit the amount of social contact during the Christmas season

Helsinki Flyer Dec 20, 2021 1:55 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 33814606)
I thought they even killed off the booze bus activities, although who knows if the bus operators even do much about that other than post a sign about that.

What is this? Sounds like fun.

GUWonder Dec 20, 2021 4:33 am


Originally Posted by Helsinki Flyer (Post 33828064)
What is this? Sounds like fun.

“party buses”. Not sure if they are just bring-your-own-booze or also sell alcohol, but it’s a reference to those kind of things.

vanillabean Dec 20, 2021 1:05 pm

The politicians’ yes to restrictions at this time has been met with some criticism.


Regeringen og sundhedsmyndighederne burde ifølge Jes Søgaard, forskningsdirektør og professor i sundhedsøkonomi ved Syddansk Universitet, have forudset fremkomsten af en ny variant og gjort mere for at øge kapaciteten på de danske sygehuse. For på den måde kunne man måske have hindret, at vi er havnet i en situation med yderligere restriktioner i form af blandt andet en nedlukning af nattelivet og store dele af kulturlivet samt et forsamlingsloft ved indendørsarrangementer, og hvor regeringen forslår behandlingsgarantien suspenderet, lyder kritikken.
In Google Translate:


According to Jes Søgaard, research director and professor of health economics at the University of Southern Denmark, the government and the health authorities should have anticipated the emergence of a new variant and done more to increase the capacity of Danish hospitals. In that way, one might have prevented us from ending up in a situation with further restrictions in the form of, among other things, a closure of nightlife and large parts of cultural life as well as an assembly ceiling at indoor events, and where the government proposes the treatment guarantee suspended, critics say.
Regeringens egne eksperter revser Mette Frederiksen for at overhøre advarsel om at sikre landet mod ny nedlukning: »En ny variant var sikkert som amen i kirken«
https://www.berlingske.dk/politik/re...r-at-overhoere

GUWonder Dec 21, 2021 12:36 am

There is a limited capacity in Denmark to scale up health care capacity. And even if scaling up capacity without consideration for the costs of major capital investments in the sector, reality soon hits
that scaling up is limited by staffing constraints/costs and not just the ability and willingness to allocate a lot of additional capital for fixed investments in the healthcare sector.

Sogaard seems to live in a theoretical economic utopia where resources are unlimited. Funny for an economist in a world where scarcity and resource constraints are a fact of life and inherently a part of what things cost and what goes on with availability.

vanillabean Dec 22, 2021 6:18 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 33830953)
There is a limited capacity in Denmark to scale up health care capacity.

You may well be right!

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1eccf30cc.jpeg

the810 Dec 22, 2021 6:34 am

Self-tests are also sold out in Sweden. While the government encourages me to get tested (I have symptoms), it's close to impossible, except from commercial testing sites but those explicitly state they are not intended for symptomatic patients.

vanillabean Dec 22, 2021 10:16 pm

Now that the government has come under pressure with Omicron exploding, things are suddenly moving quickly. Just recently, the booster shot cutoff was lowered to 40 years, and already now it’s 18 years, keeping in place the minimum of 140 days since the second shot.

Meanwhile in November, the Danish health authorities turned down an offer of an extra 200,000 PCR tests a day, doubling the capacity. But now per the news starting tomorrow, the PCR and antigen capacity will be increased to 500,000 and from January 7 to 700,000.

🎵 And it’s a hard, and it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard
It’s a hard snow’s a-going to fall 🎵 ❄️🎄 :)

GUWonder Dec 23, 2021 11:02 am

Denmark is going to put back in a testing requirement for most "personal" visits to Denmark by US citizens too. 48 hour antigen test or 72 hour PCR test. This goes into effect on December 27th and stays at least initially until January 17th.

I believe I'm going to still be exempted from testing requirements on the same grounds as previously in Denmark, but I have a habit of getting tested way more frequently than required by hosting countries.

How is mask availability at retailers in Denmark? In Sweden, it seems to be harder to find masks now than at this time last year.

the810 Dec 23, 2021 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 33838093)
In Sweden, it seems to be harder to find masks now than at this time last year.

Where? I've seen full shelves of masks in several pharmacies today during my hunt for gold antigen test.

GUWonder Dec 23, 2021 12:14 pm


Originally Posted by the810 (Post 33838310)
Where? I've seen full shelves of masks in several pharmacies today during my hunt for gold antigen test.

The non-pharmacies in Sweden no longer have them like they had them at this time last year. The pharmacies have the masks as usual, but they are also more expensive on average there than the non-pharmacy retailers which used to have them more widely in Sweden than they do nowadays.

For example, one of the Danish stores that are at various places in Sweden used to stack masks even well into this past summer, but they either stopped doing so or ran low/out of supplies.

the810 Dec 23, 2021 1:00 pm

That's possible since virtually no one uses them, so why stock them.

vanillabean Dec 23, 2021 1:06 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 33838093)
How is mask availability at retailers in Denmark?

Good, it would appear. Better than trying to get an antigen test in the eastern part of the country some of today, as the Copenhagen Medical centers were down for several hours and people had to come back later. And on top of that in recent news, the company lost 15,000 vaccine shots when power went off and the system to monitor it wasn’t working. Today is the holiday season’s busiest travel day!

vanillabean Dec 24, 2021 3:57 am

Orderly long distance train today, courtesy of coronapas, mundbind, pladsbilletter and all!

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3c589e1f9.jpeg

God jul. ❄️

vanillabean Dec 27, 2021 12:22 am

It’s an everyday Monday, the day after Saturday and Sunday, 1. and 2. Christmas day, and it’s precisely one year ago Danes first got a shot of the Covid vaccine. Back then, we probably didn’t expect many being infected now, 11 million shots later. It’s been a tough year!


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