Deal Killing Blogs: List deals which were pulled, and the blogs which published them.
Nov 19, 2012, 3:52 pm
#181
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The simple fact is that the vast majority that post in MilesBuzz want to either ask for information or share it. If they want to know how to get around a restriction or simple state non-helpful information like there are 2 vanilla reloads at their local Office Depot in their town of 1,000 people... The blogs simply found a business of extracting the good stuff.
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Nov 19, 2012, 4:00 pm
#182
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How about we find out what you believe. We all know that VR’s at OD for all practical purpose is dead. Did the constant posting of this at blogs/forums/blogs kill this deal? If this deal was never posted on a blog/forum would it still be going on?
Nov 19, 2012, 4:00 pm
#183
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The Texan went into details for GC and which partners had no shipping charges. Encourages people to purchase a drink at a dining partner for a qualifying purchase. Wayyyyyy to many details and this was on August 19th! Patient was in ICU soon there after.
Nov 19, 2012, 4:02 pm
#184
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You should read more carefully. Or think better.
balima: or unless it's simply that the deal went away. There is a strong urge to blame someone, and not much urge to look for other explanations, of which there are plenty.
Nov 19, 2012, 4:07 pm
#185
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Very true. People don't have to view this thread if they don't want to. They don't have to view blogs if they don't want to. They don't have to go to FT if they don't want to!
Nov 19, 2012, 4:08 pm
#186
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You believe what you want to believe. You have no proof. Try to understand that you simply have not proved your claim in any way, shape or form. You've only shown one correlation among many possible correlations. You've not even approached causation.
I also dislike the attitude that the deals should only belong to the select few. That's a selfish attitude that is contrary to the reason FT exists, in my opinion.
I also dislike the attitude that the deals should only belong to the select few. That's a selfish attitude that is contrary to the reason FT exists, in my opinion.
I don't think anyone said that the deals belong to a select few. The problem is the spoon feeding. Circles, arrows, pictures, exact details of how to squeeze the last drops of blood from the rock. For the bloggers, this is their job. Ergo they make money from getting the greatest number of people to come to their blog and hopefully click on those CC links. That can not be disputed.
FT does not exist for the deals. Contrary to the belief of many. FT exists to share information about flying. Those of us who have been here for a long time remember that the majority of threads were about flying, tickets, SWUs, upgrades, seats etc etc. Mistake fares, credit cards etc. were merely a sweet addition.
Nov 19, 2012, 4:11 pm
#187
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FT does not exist for the deals. Contrary to the belief of many. FT exists to share information about flying. Those of us who have been here for a long time remember that the majority of threads were about flying, tickets, SWUs, upgrades, seats etc etc. Mistake fares, credit cards etc. were merely a sweet addition.
And let's see how many years the AMEX SmallBiz Day will last...
And again we should also consider what's a "deal."
Does the BA blogger with random posts of alcoholic drinks with his tab of "free money" qualify?
Nov 19, 2012, 4:12 pm
#188
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The point is that deals WILL disappear much faster now. Couple years ago XP had a coupon of $200 off 3 night IHG hotel and a flight. Many r/t flight for about $50. Deal lasted 3 month and ended when it had to end originally. Alitalia and Travelocity deals recently lasted few hours after bloggers wrote about them. Its just new reality today. Jump on the deal right away!
Nov 19, 2012, 4:13 pm
#190
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You do realize that the programs actively monitor Flyertalk, right?
United is in the United forum here every day. So when threads explode here on Flyertalk, you think that the programs don't notice it? Especially when they have employees whose job it is to monitor Flyertalk?
Look, it's great to want to find a way to keep discussions on the down low. But I don't think that blaming "bloggers" for every deal that goes south is correct either.
United is in the United forum here every day. So when threads explode here on Flyertalk, you think that the programs don't notice it? Especially when they have employees whose job it is to monitor Flyertalk?
Look, it's great to want to find a way to keep discussions on the down low. But I don't think that blaming "bloggers" for every deal that goes south is correct either.
Nov 19, 2012, 4:26 pm
#191
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When I get back to Canada I want to buy more reloads of one particular card...
Even though I've been to the store many times in the past they still ID me...
Nov 19, 2012, 4:32 pm
#192
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You do realize that the programs actively monitor Flyertalk, right?
United is in the United forum here every day. So when threads explode here on Flyertalk, you think that the programs don't notice it? Especially when they have employees whose job it is to monitor Flyertalk?
Look, it's great to want to find a way to keep discussions on the down low. But I don't think that blaming "bloggers" for every deal that goes south is correct either.
United is in the United forum here every day. So when threads explode here on Flyertalk, you think that the programs don't notice it? Especially when they have employees whose job it is to monitor Flyertalk?
Look, it's great to want to find a way to keep discussions on the down low. But I don't think that blaming "bloggers" for every deal that goes south is correct either.
Nov 19, 2012, 4:40 pm
#193
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Highlighting mine.
I don't think anyone said that the deals belong to a select few. The problem is the spoon feeding. Circles, arrows, pictures, exact details of how to squeeze the last drops of blood from the rock. For the bloggers, this is their job. Ergo they make money from getting the greatest number of people to come to their blog and hopefully click on those CC links. That can not be disputed.
FT does not exist for the deals. Contrary to the belief of many. FT exists to share information about flying. Those of us who have been here for a long time remember that the majority of threads were about flying, tickets, SWUs, upgrades, seats etc etc. Mistake fares, credit cards etc. were merely a sweet addition.
I don't think anyone said that the deals belong to a select few. The problem is the spoon feeding. Circles, arrows, pictures, exact details of how to squeeze the last drops of blood from the rock. For the bloggers, this is their job. Ergo they make money from getting the greatest number of people to come to their blog and hopefully click on those CC links. That can not be disputed.
FT does not exist for the deals. Contrary to the belief of many. FT exists to share information about flying. Those of us who have been here for a long time remember that the majority of threads were about flying, tickets, SWUs, upgrades, seats etc etc. Mistake fares, credit cards etc. were merely a sweet addition.
You could compare the blogs to those religions that go door to door trying to preach and convert. They have a greater reach than FT with their links to major newspapers and they reach out to the masses with their spoonfeeding and pictures with arrows and circles. Their readers would never have even heard about miles and points if not for the blogs and that would keep the numbers down. Thousands and thousands of ignorant people now know about miles and points and are flooding the market. What they didn't know before wasn't hurting them so why should they get everything handed to them on a silver platter for being ignorant and lazy?
Nov 19, 2012, 4:45 pm
#194
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No, my logic is that if you haven't proved something, you haven't proved it. Nowhere did I claim that it is not happening. It is simply one of many possibilities, none of which have proof, because we simply don't know why a deal ends. Without a explanatory statement from the companies involved, all we can do is speculate, and your speculation is no better than mine, because neither have any proof.
You should read more carefully. Or think better.
balima: or unless it's simply that the deal went away. There is a strong urge to blame someone, and not much urge to look for other explanations, of which there are plenty.
You should read more carefully. Or think better.
balima: or unless it's simply that the deal went away. There is a strong urge to blame someone, and not much urge to look for other explanations, of which there are plenty.
I still don't think that the mint would have gone away without all the publicity. Coins are still being minted and they still have many more presidents to go. New reserve vaults are being built to hold the coins. Something had to be done amid all the negative publicity of people schlepping thousands of coins for miles/points/cashback.
Under the radar means just that. Nobody notices or deems the blip to be inconsequential.
Nov 19, 2012, 4:48 pm
#195
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Any blogger that posts more than one credit card offer/link per week should be ignored (or worse).