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Old Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
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Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!



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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.

This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.

Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.

We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).

If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.

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Old May 20, 2016, 1:47 pm
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C2-C4

Still plenty of possibilities available. Destinations include a national capital from $179 (edit: $167) as well as many interesting destinations to the south and far south from $267-$354.

Edit: booking class earns 100% on some programs, with a minimum CPM of c.1.2.

Edit: comparable prices on another carrier routing through the US for extra miles, also earning 100% on some programs. On this carrier you can go further north, but not to C1.

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Old May 20, 2016, 3:13 pm
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SKYTEAM NYC - MNL $ 355.20 All-in R/T

SKYTEAM NYC - MNL $ 355.20 All-in R/T
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Old May 20, 2016, 8:17 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
SKYTEAM NYC - MNL $ 355.20 All-in R/T
Great fare! For those needing to fly *A you can do it for a little more= $399.86
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Old May 21, 2016, 5:41 pm
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Hello!

Hi all,

Spent the last two weeks reading through much of this thread, and just when I was about to give up, my first successful tricked fare! I'm sure you veterans can get this down quite a bit lower, but feels great to get my first working FD, without begging and pleading like certain newbies. I'm here to learn and contribute

C1w-C3se *A R/T $427 AI
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Old May 21, 2016, 5:53 pm
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Originally Posted by pbartp
Great fare! For those needing to fly *A you can do it for a little more= $399.86
New York - Bali $ 344.35 All-in R/T on OneWorld.

Los Angeles - Bali $ 289,78

Los Angeles - Bangkok $ 225.24.

Southern Hemisphere to Bangkok 124.11

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Old May 21, 2016, 6:06 pm
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c1w to c4 *A, $400-$600

best dumps in June ($400). mediocre, but reasonable dumps throughout the fall.

straightforward 3x.
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Old May 21, 2016, 6:13 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
New York - Bali $ 344.35 All-in R/T on OneWorld.
3x or 1x? interested folks should also check starwarsgeek's post a few days ago.
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Old May 23, 2016, 2:25 pm
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Hello all,

Just one question, is it possible to reduce YQ ..... more than 50% (c2-c3) with 3x?
I am able to reduce it for 50% easily.

Thanks in advance

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Old May 23, 2016, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by hightraveler
Hello all,

Just one question, is it possible to reduce YQ more than 50% (c2-c3) with 3x?
I am able to reduce it for 50% easily.

Thanks in advance
Yes. Depends on the carrier. One of the gulf ones is the hardest I think. The others could be dumped up to 75% with a bit of effort. Keep tricking!

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Old May 23, 2016, 2:45 pm
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Carrier I am trying to trick is ,,,,,, so ... maybe it is possible

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Old May 23, 2016, 3:23 pm
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hightraveler: Please remove the name of the carrier from your posts. You won't get much help here if you come across as being so loose with specific information.
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Old May 24, 2016, 12:32 pm
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Mulholland to Table Mountain $ 382.45 All in R/T

Fly on a real airplane from Mulholland to Table Mountain for
$ 382.45 All in R/T with safe simple 3X.

Fly from Lindberg or San Mateo for a few $ more.

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Old May 25, 2016, 8:12 am
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New York to Seychelles $ 295.92 All in R/T

New York to Seychelles is now $ 295.92 All in R/T with Double Trick.

Bookable on Travelocity.

Free 1 week stop-over in Shopping Capital.

DEAL EXPIRED AT MIDNIGHT.

Last edited by WingedWorldExplorer; May 27, 2016 at 11:16 am Reason: DEAL EXPIRED
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Old May 26, 2016, 5:44 am
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Originally Posted by SenJAB
Your idea is not bad, but forget that APIs. They are very expensive, if you want to do enough queries. The best way is to look into the techniques different otas are using and then directly use their data.

I know about people which do about 30 million queries a day and they are booking a significant amount of error fares which are never going public.
For sure you can bruteforce fuel dumps, and it is really no problem (in the database are about 10k potential strikes of all types). If you scan one route with this strikes it's just about a minute and you know what is possible (except when it's a special ota thing). But why stress yourself with flying of fuel dumps when you can fly a higher class of service without a strike and for the same money?

Be creative, learn how to scrape data.
Shure scraping is possible but all the major OTAs are banning IPs as soon as they recognize you bruteforce them. What are the techniques of other OTAs? I have some knowledge in scripting and scraping, but would be very interested in the data of you are mentioning.

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Old May 26, 2016, 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
New York to Seychelles is now $ 295.92 All in R/T with Double Trick.

Bookable on Travelocity. ( Not )

Free 1 week stop-over in Shopping Capital.
Just booked 6 tickets.

Stop-over (4 days) added $ 20.00 in Airport Tax.

Travelocity failed to book and ticket this complicated itinerary. Expedia also failed.

However main carrier's Website ( to my surprise ) confirmed and ticketed.
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