Feb 24, 2015, 12:18 pm
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CLE - Impact of other airlines (gates, routes, equipment, & etc) after UA De-Hubbing
Dec 10, 2018, 11:52 am
#1906
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
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Dec 10, 2018, 5:59 pm
#1907
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CLE
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Previously lost STL and MKE. All other non hub destinations served have other airlines flying these routes and in some cases mumtiple airlines. LGA, DCA, MCO, RSW, FLL, CUN. I guess SJU service not coming back. If they wanted they can pull the plug on geese routes at any time. Last time UA closed the hub on 1986 they eventually dropped all routes even DEN. All we had was ORD and IAD.
Dec 10, 2018, 6:14 pm
#1908
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Previously lost STL and MKE. All other non hub destinations served have other airlines flying these routes and in some cases mumtiple airlines. LGA, DCA, MCO, RSW, FLL, CUN. I guess SJU service not coming back. If they wanted they can pull the plug on geese routes at any time. Last time UA closed the hub on 1986 they eventually dropped all routes even DEN. All we had was ORD and IAD.
Although I would only fly UA, with B6 offering a premium experience (and DL coming into the picture with 2-cabin service) at the top end and NK on the low end I think UA saw whatever revenue they were realizing shrinking away. Plus it seems the EpressJet MX base in CLE is dwindling so not quite the need to rotate E145s in and out through other cities so the operational utility of keeping BOS isn't as present.
I think we'll virtually certainly keep IAD/EWR/ORD/DEN/SFO/LAX. LGA and DCA seem less certain (though I'd give LGA better odds over DCA at least for a high level of service) and anything else will be "pop up" on a hyper seasonal basis.
Dec 18, 2018, 12:15 pm
#1910
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Location: Cleveland, OH
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Crains: New Hopkins plan could be rough go for taxis, limos and ride-sharing services
Passengers who use limousines, taxis and ride-share drivers will do a little more walking, and the services they use, as well as hotel and off-site parking lot operators, will start paying higher fees to the airport.
Airport officials say the moves are designed to ease congestion on the terminal's upper (dropoff) and lower (pickup) roadways as the volume of passenger traffic has risen in recent years. The city believes the increase for shuttle and limousine services, which will rise about $1.8 million, puts those fees in line with what's charged in other cities.
Airport officials say the moves are designed to ease congestion on the terminal's upper (dropoff) and lower (pickup) roadways as the volume of passenger traffic has risen in recent years. The city believes the increase for shuttle and limousine services, which will rise about $1.8 million, puts those fees in line with what's charged in other cities.
Dec 19, 2018, 6:31 pm
#1911
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Crains: New Hopkins plan could be rough go for taxis, limos and ride-sharing services
Dec 20, 2018, 9:27 am
#1912
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
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Crains: New Hopkins plan could be rough go for taxis, limos and ride-sharing services
Dec 20, 2018, 10:09 am
#1913
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CLE
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The dropoff point is near the escalator on the baggage claim level that takes passengers up to the entrance to Terminal C, which is used by Air Canada, JetBlue, Southwest and United airlines.
If there's curbside "congestion" on the upper level perhaps they should eliminate the valet parking lane?
Dec 22, 2018, 11:25 am
#1914
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CLE
Programs: UA,WN,AA,DL, B6
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CLE
Here is a comparison. Drive on I595 By FLL airport and look at the massive terminal improvements vs drive by I480 look at CLE. 40 years ago airports looked very similar. At FLL they have spent billions.
At CLE the entire airport terminal needs rebuIlt. How about getting rid of the IX Center and rebuilding it there which would also create a new traffic pattern which would fix the traffic congestion issue. We do have a new convention center downtown.
At CLE the entire airport terminal needs rebuIlt. How about getting rid of the IX Center and rebuilding it there which would also create a new traffic pattern which would fix the traffic congestion issue. We do have a new convention center downtown.
Dec 25, 2018, 10:32 am
#1915
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: ORD/CLE
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Here is a comparison. Drive on I595 By FLL airport and look at the massive terminal improvements vs drive by I480 look at CLE. 40 years ago airports looked very similar. At FLL they have spent billions.
At CLE the entire airport terminal needs rebuIlt. How about getting rid of the IX Center and rebuilding it there which would also create a new traffic pattern which would fix the traffic congestion issue. We do have a new convention center downtown.
At CLE the entire airport terminal needs rebuIlt. How about getting rid of the IX Center and rebuilding it there which would also create a new traffic pattern which would fix the traffic congestion issue. We do have a new convention center downtown.
Dec 29, 2018, 11:48 pm
#1916
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CLE
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London
I see British Airways is starting direct flights to Charleston SC from London seasonal a few days a week. I wounder have we been talking to them about getting service here. Hard to believe it was 1999 when Continental started CLE-LGW.
Dec 30, 2018, 6:24 am
#1917
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Cleveland, OH, USA, UA Silver, Hilton Gold
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Changes to the ground transportation situation at CLE start on January 1. I’m sure they will not be well received!
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Dec 30, 2018, 10:52 am
#1918
Join Date: Sep 2005
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RNE, airline coroner.
