Platinum Override
#556
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago (ORD)
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, UA Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 566
I'm confused. Can someone help me out? I've been platinum a couple of years now, but have never noticed the Platinum Override in any searches. For example (not that this is an exciting place to go), I am looking to book some rooms in Bloomington IL for the weekend of March 13-14 or March 14-15. I believe Marriott has three hotels in the area (a Marriott conference hotel, a RI, and a FFI). When I enter my dates, I can only see the Marriott and FFI, and not the RI. What do other platinums see? What am I supposed to do to turn "on" that feature? Or, is there an exemption in place for those days?
And, I've never really ever seen the language other reference in regards to letting you know it's a PO rate (though I guess I just never click on the super high rates)?
Thanks in advance.
And, I've never really ever seen the language other reference in regards to letting you know it's a PO rate (though I guess I just never click on the super high rates)?
Thanks in advance.
#557
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SNA
Posts: 18,240
Looks like the Residence Inn has a 2 night minimum. I see it for a request for 13-15, but not for just 13-14 or 14-15.
PO's do not override stay length minimums.
PO's do not override stay length minimums.
#558
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: LA
Posts: 1,281
For the first time ever, I am able to use the Plat override! ^
I just tried booking my favorite CY in Atlanta on Carnegie Way on our corporate booking tool, and it said sold out, so went to good old Marriott and check, and sure enough, it didn't pop up. After logging into my account though, it came up with a reasonable price for once at $249!
I just tried booking my favorite CY in Atlanta on Carnegie Way on our corporate booking tool, and it said sold out, so went to good old Marriott and check, and sure enough, it didn't pop up. After logging into my account though, it came up with a reasonable price for once at $249!
#559
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#560
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SNA
Posts: 18,240
That doesn't seem right. I thought the whole hotel had to be booked by a group to get a Plat Override exception? If the whole hotel was booked, how was I able to get a room only if I booked both nights?
#561
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: IAH
Programs: Delta Platinum & 2MM, Marriott Lifetime TIT, Hertz Pres Club, IHG Gold, *A Gold
Posts: 1,253
Whats going on in Tokyo?
I need 3 nights, Apr 4-7. I was able to reserve nights of 5&6 at the Courtyard Tokyo Station for a reasonable rate. For the night of the 4th, Platinum override would only work for the Courtyard Ginza. I prefer the Ginza property, but 60,000 Yen??? Ouch!
Also noticed for the 1st time that the rate at the Nagoya Marriott is variable depending on the number of guests. 1 guest = ~26,000 Yen and 2 guests = ~ 34,000 Yen. Regular rate...breakfast not included. Maybe this is the norm and I just never noticed?
Also noticed for the 1st time that the rate at the Nagoya Marriott is variable depending on the number of guests. 1 guest = ~26,000 Yen and 2 guests = ~ 34,000 Yen. Regular rate...breakfast not included. Maybe this is the norm and I just never noticed?
#562
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,467
Definitely an extra charge for the 2nd person in Japan. Quite common. Happened on a visit for us a few years ago. Wife and I were traveling with my uncle. I always defaulted to two in a room. She was getting a different price for his room than i was. It was because she had one guest. Then I checked Flyertalk and saw that the extra person bumped the price. This was at the CY Ginza.
#563
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 85
Can someone clue me in to how this works? Since I'm Platinum, should I just be able to search and find hotels? Or is there something I'm supposed to check to activate the PO?
Thanks!
Thanks!
#564
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Aug 2002
Programs: UALifetimePremierGold, Marriott LifetimeTitanium
Posts: 71,110
The way to tell if the PO is working is do a search - without being logged in & then do a search while logged in - if the property isn't available when you're not logged in (aka, when the system thinks you're general Jane/John Doe) but is available when you are logged in (knows you're a Plat), then you know the override is kicking in. Also, the override is only for the Plat's room.
Please note that special events (think Super Bowl, NYE) the Plat override may not be available - but for those special events the property has to get permission from Marriott & it's not an on-going thing, but is more one-off for certain events/times.
Cheers.
#565
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: RSW
Programs: Delta - Silver; UA - Silver; HHonors - Diamond; IHG - Spire Ambassador; Marriott Bonvoy - Titanium
Posts: 14,185
I take it this feature is similar to Hilton's Diamond Force?
#566
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
Yes, it is similar to the Hilton Diamond Force. What I like about the Marriott Plat Override is that the hotel doesn't have any direct way to control the Override inventory. Since the reservation is made through Marriott's central reservations, the only way a hotel can stop Marriott from allowing a Plat to make a reservation is for the hotel to petition Marriott directly to not allow the Plat Override. And Marriott will only do that if the hotel can show that some group or event has contracted for all the hotel rooms at the hotel.
But as mentioned, Marriott doesn't pop-up a window or do much to let you know that the only reason you can see any inventory is because of the Plat Override. So it is easy to think you never use it not knowing you may have used it many times.
Also the rate for a FS hotel is the hotel's general Corp Rate which is usually well less than their Rack Rate. I once went to a conference in NO where the conference rented a lot of the rooms at the Marriott next to Bourbon Street. It turned out the conference didn't rent out all the rooms (just a large block). So I was able to get a reservation at the Corp rate (using a Plat override) which was less than all my friends who stayed using the Convention rate as that was the only rate they could get a room with.
But as mentioned, Marriott doesn't pop-up a window or do much to let you know that the only reason you can see any inventory is because of the Plat Override. So it is easy to think you never use it not knowing you may have used it many times.
Also the rate for a FS hotel is the hotel's general Corp Rate which is usually well less than their Rack Rate. I once went to a conference in NO where the conference rented a lot of the rooms at the Marriott next to Bourbon Street. It turned out the conference didn't rent out all the rooms (just a large block). So I was able to get a reservation at the Corp rate (using a Plat override) which was less than all my friends who stayed using the Convention rate as that was the only rate they could get a room with.
#567
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: MSP
Programs: DL DM, Marriott Plat, National Exec Elite
Posts: 1,357
i have noticed less hotels showing up in a number of searches on a weekly basis in San Jose Ca. for example you telling the Courtyard on holger way is getting a sign off almost weekly to not allow a plat. over ride? Two weeks in a row i tried to book a wed night and nothing is showing up on the website. Call in and tell me the hotel is sold out but i guess i thought that was the power of the over ride.
thanks
thanks
#568
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Programs: MR LT Titanium, IHG Plat.,UA Premier Silver, & PA/OH Turnpike Million Miler
Posts: 2,320
i have noticed less hotels showing up in a number of searches on a weekly basis in San Jose Ca. for example you telling the Courtyard on holger way is getting a sign off almost weekly to not allow a plat. over ride? Two weeks in a row i tried to book a wed night and nothing is showing up on the website. Call in and tell me the hotel is sold out but i guess i thought that was the power of the over ride.
thanks
thanks
A property at I stay at near my out of town family is frequently not available many times a year. I have also seen lack of availability at a number of random business properties when other very nearby Marriott properties are available. So my empirical experience leads me to conclude one of two things:
- The criteria for getting a waiver are relatively lax and they aren't that rare after all.
- Something else is going on in the system (intended or unintended) where the hotels are still blocking inventory for platinum overrides even though it is >48 hours before the stay.
I have also seen many times where the platinum override does work and the rates have been reasonable. So netting it out, it is a useful feature but doesn't provide the universal availability at 48+ hours in advance that it is advertised to do. I have experienced far too many exceptions for it to be considered universal for me. YMMV...
--Jon
#569
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
Yes, it seems there are more blackout dates now. It used to be that only a huge, unusual event, like a convention for which the entire hotel was booked or a Super Bowl or Penn State football weekend in Altoona would allow for a blackout and hotels were limited in the number allowed. Now it seems an ordinarily busy week may be enough. I recently called a hotel trying to get in and the front desk didn't even know of an event that would warrant a blackout. The Hampton didn't have a blackout so I stayed there at a low rate.
#570
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Midwest
Programs: Marriott Titanium, IHG Plat, Hyatt Globalist, HHonors Diamond, AA Plat Pro, UA Silver
Posts: 571
Socrates was a great resource. Hopefully all is good with him.
Yes, it seems there are more blackout dates now. It used to be that only a huge, unusual event, like a convention for which the entire hotel was booked or a Super Bowl or Penn State football weekend in Altoona would allow for a blackout and hotels were limited in the number allowed. Now it seems an ordinarily busy week may be enough. I recently called a hotel trying to get in and the front desk didn't even know of an event that would warrant a blackout. The Hampton didn't have a blackout so I stayed there at a low rate.
Yes, it seems there are more blackout dates now. It used to be that only a huge, unusual event, like a convention for which the entire hotel was booked or a Super Bowl or Penn State football weekend in Altoona would allow for a blackout and hotels were limited in the number allowed. Now it seems an ordinarily busy week may be enough. I recently called a hotel trying to get in and the front desk didn't even know of an event that would warrant a blackout. The Hampton didn't have a blackout so I stayed there at a low rate.