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spg points not transferred yet to marriott and also not showing on spg.com
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Originally Posted by GoPhils
(Post 30100263)
This! Sure Marriott maybe could have done things a bit differently, and in the end I have a feeling that they’ll refund the 30k point differences, but they could have easily stopped selling the legacy travel package certificates when they announced they were going to raise the prices. In which case I’m sure people would have complained. Threatening to move hotel chains completely, class actions, etc. seems way over the top considering anyone that bought a TP since it was announced they were changing is getting a significantly better deal than someone who were to buy a new TP today, just maybe not as much of a better deal as they thought. First world problems for sure. I think the only people that have legitimate complaints are those that bought the TP’s prior to the announcement of the changes to TP costs in the new program. And I’m sure that number is FAR less than the number of people that bought them since, fueled by blogger and forum hysteria. |
when will we know what is considered peak and off peak for 2019?
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I really confuse, I had new C4 (old C5) TP, someone's said only can execute C4 for 7 nights, cannot execute for C5 off-peak in 2019.
Any confirm news for it? Thanks. |
Originally Posted by dreamertogo
(Post 30101107)
I really confuse, I had new C4 (old C5) TP, someone's said only can execute C4 for 7 nights, cannot execute for C5 off-peak in 2019.
Any confirm news for it? Thanks. |
Originally Posted by dreamertogo
(Post 30101107)
I really confuse, I had new C4 (old C5) TP, someone's said only can execute C4 for 7 nights, cannot execute for C5 off-peak in 2019.
Any confirm news for it? Thanks. |
Originally Posted by metoo
(Post 30101082)
when will we know what is considered peak and off peak for 2019?
And its going to be hotel specific, no? All the hotel has to do is designate all weekends "peak" - and forget about redeeiming your package. |
Originally Posted by jamflyer
(Post 30100551)
I have not seen this discussed. What's the impact on the 5 night packages available to MVCI owners?
Originally Posted by SC Alum
(Post 30100471)
So basically, the difference is only 30 points and you get extra 25K airline miles.
If you convert 30k points, we'll get 12.5K miles, which is still 12.5K miles less than the current Cat 5 travel package. The old travel package system (exempting 5N packages) generally converted points to miles at a 1:1 ratio and added the cost of a seven-night stay at respective categories (after considering the fifth night free).* The new travel packages follow the same logic but convert points to miles at a 1.5:1 ratio and use the cost of peak pricing for each category. In math: [Peak Nightly Cost for Cat x 6 nights] + [1.5 x No. of Miles] = Cost of Travel Package |
Originally Posted by rankourabu
(Post 30101188)
Given the clarity of communications from Marriott - I would expect not until bookings open at new rates :rolleyes:
And its going to be hotel specific, no? All the hotel has to do is designate all weekends "peak" - and forget about redeeiming your package. |
Originally Posted by esdot
(Post 30101198)
The new travel packages follow the same logic but convert points to miles at a 1.5:1 ratio and use the cost of peak pricing for each category. In math: [Peak Nightly Cost for Cat x 6 nights] + [1.5 x No. of Miles] = Cost of Travel Package
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Can someone cancel their reservation that has a certificate attached and see if they will be refunded points or a certificate in the new system ?
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Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
(Post 30097942)
Members,
For members with existing Travel Packages (booked prior to today and not yet attached to a reservation), today we are able to share how they will convert within the newly unified program. Please see the full chart below. No existing Travel Package certificate is losing value in terms of points and, with the new Free Night Award Chart that goes live today, 70% of our hotels either stayed at the same redemption rate threshold or moved down. As we structured the conversion chart, we considered the introduction of peak and off-peak redemption rates, which will be introduced in early 2019. This means that if you have an existing Category 9 certificate, which converts to Category 6 starting today, holders will still be able to attach the certificate to a stay when redemption rates within that category are at their highest. Please let us know if you have any questions and we’ll do our best to answer. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2a78819e1e.jpg Marriott Rewards Insider I'm holding an old Category 7 (35,000 points per night) certificate from a package that I ordered in July. I expected it to be worth 35,000 points per night after August 18. The fact that the conversion shows "40K points" would only be of value if I wait until 2019 and I book for a peak period. Still, I'm okay with the point value. It's still worth 35,000 points per night as far as I'm concerned. I want to use it in September 2019, so I was unable to make my reservation and attach the certificate before August 18. When I ordered the package, I was told I would be able to able to extend the hotel certificate another 12 month beyond its expiration date and to add more points if I needed to. That's how it's long been with Marriott, and Marriott did not announce that anything would change. Let's hope that a recent post to the contrary from a Lurker is mistaken — or that Marriott will reconsider such a member-hostile policy change. I did better than some. Like many here, I wish I had ordered old Category 9 (45,000 points per night). But I didn't. However, I'd be really upset if I had ordered old Category 6 or old Category 8. I'd feel I had been robbed by Marriott. |
Originally Posted by OssianBlue
(Post 30101235)
Yes, as soon as I saw that I was afraid they would convert on peak values and had I had 60K in the kitty would have upgraded to a 7. I wasn't expecting to not be able to do that later.
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Originally Posted by mk712
(Post 30099614)
100% agree on everything.
Regardless of which package you hold, at worst you haven't received as good of a deal as some have, but at the very least you're in the same situation now that you were before in terms of points spent. There are no losers here. People have had unrealistic expectations all along, the blogs were advertising the travel packages as if they were the deal of the century and now people are disappointed because they're only getting what they've paid for. If people had based their decision on logic rather than speculation then no one would be complaining. Case in point: So you bought an old Category 8 package (40k points per night) hoping to use it at the new Category 6 properties (50k points per night), and now you're upset because Marriott won't let you. How dare they! |
Absolutely horrible move by Marriott. Not allowing upgrade/downgrade, and not releasing the chart beforehand are absolutely unacceptable. It is willful deception. You release the chart the same day it goes live and can't even give a week notice? Shameful.
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