As an aside, I've just noticed that the Points price of all my existing reservations where I had yet to attach a certificate or pay points, have increased/decreased to the new rate. I had understood that all existing reservations would stay at the reserved rate...

On the bright side, all Cat 6, 8 and Tier one may still have a chance of good will 30k refund or extension of certificate.

If the new conversion is already available why would we not be able to book something till September 18th? Does it really take one month for Marriott to change the certificates for us?

Perhaps it is a planned announcement. Get people upset, then make people"whole" again and then people will stay or become a Marriott loyalist.

Just my 2 cents.

I've got the same thing going on - reservation was made but no deduction for three reservations in December-January made on Thursday. The website was buggy so it would make the reservation but didn't deduct points and wouldn't let me buy a certificate, but the reservation did say the certificate would automatically be bought 7 days before check in. I have emails indicating the points price of the reservation at the old price. Now that website shows the new price. I didn't have time to call, but now I may have to at some point...

They changed all the Points Advance reservations to the new amount. That was unexpected.

Those that bought old cat 6 package I believe really lost out, even comparing to the new devalued travel package.

Old Cat 6 travel package Cost 300K points = New cat 1 to 4 + 85K most international airline miles.
Currently new devalued CAT 1 to 4 cost 330k points. But we get 110K airline miles.

So basically, the difference is only 30 points and you get extra 25K airline miles.
If you convert 30k points, we'll get 12.5K miles, which is still 12.5K miles less than the current Cat 5 travel package. So, for the same 330k miles, you get 85K miles + 12.5K miles, for a total of only 97.5K miles. Which is still 12.5K less miles.

So, basically if you bought an old Cat 6 travel package, you actually lost out on 12.5k miles even compared to the new more costly travel package. And I got 3 Cat 6 travel package from points it took me quite a while to collect. Let just hope Marriott gives us a refund of 30k or lets us cancel the purchase.

I'm pretty sure most people got either 132K (United) or 120K miles on the original purchase.

:p sorry, this is just funny. Let us know if the travel department cares about your bet re: leisure travel that didn't pan out ;) my guess is pretty good at this point ... they will laugh all day :)

With plenty of time time did they announce new hotel rates and mappings and made it clear that you will have to re-book at new values post August 18. This is also true when you gain ... some hotels go down and I will re-book some stays; they are refunding points in these cases. So anyway, thanks for making me laugh this morning.

Original purchase only got 85K miles if you convert to most international airlines. I converted to SQ which I believe had better service & saver fare miles.

I have not seen this discussed. What's the impact on the 5 night packages available to MVCI owners?

Here's what's so crazy about this situation. Two or three months ago they could have published this exact same table--maybe even map the Cat 9 to new Cat 6--and do blast e-mails to all TP holders that this is what is going to happen and that you have time to adjust as needed before the conversion and that you should do so because you won't be able to adjust afterwards.

That is what was was 'complained' about in the post that I commented on ;) but anyway ... I am sure we will see plenty of whining ... I'll have the cheese ready ;)

Booked 2 TPs and have them attached. These will be 100% honored. All the other stuff was 'guessing games' and 'hoping' they would allow for the best of both worlds ... well, they did not. Some you win and some you don't.