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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
May 11, 2017, 8:11 pm
#2341
Join Date: Jun 2004
Programs: BD, DL, UA, AA, Marriott, SPG
Posts: 1,131
Has anyone's bonus Aeroplan miles posted yet?
May 16, 2017, 1:17 am
#2342
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,400
Just checking in to make sure my way of thinking is correct.
I have a 7 night stay in HKG coming up I have to book, so I figured I'll look into the travel packages. In Canada, so I'm comparing:
180'000 Amex MR = 90'000 SPG = 270k Marriott = 120'000 Alaska + 7 Nights Cat1-5 (though I'd probably upgrade to Cat6 to use the CY Hong Kong, so let's go with:
200'000 Amex MR = 100'000 SPG = 300k Marriott = 120'000 Alaska + 7 Nights @ CY Hong Kong
vs
200'000 Amex MR = e.g. 200'000 Aeroplan + pay Cash for 7 nights
Assuming AS miles are worth, say 25% more than AP, that's still the equivalent of ~150k
so essentially I'm hoping I get more than 50'000 worth of AP miles out of the 7 nights. Assuming ~ 1.5cents per AP mile, that's about 750USD, so 107USD/Night.
So... using the travel packages is worth it if I don't find a satisfactory hotel for less than 107USD/night.
...Correct thinking?
I have a 7 night stay in HKG coming up I have to book, so I figured I'll look into the travel packages. In Canada, so I'm comparing:
180'000 Amex MR = 90'000 SPG = 270k Marriott = 120'000 Alaska + 7 Nights Cat1-5 (though I'd probably upgrade to Cat6 to use the CY Hong Kong, so let's go with:
200'000 Amex MR = 100'000 SPG = 300k Marriott = 120'000 Alaska + 7 Nights @ CY Hong Kong
vs
200'000 Amex MR = e.g. 200'000 Aeroplan + pay Cash for 7 nights
Assuming AS miles are worth, say 25% more than AP, that's still the equivalent of ~150k
so essentially I'm hoping I get more than 50'000 worth of AP miles out of the 7 nights. Assuming ~ 1.5cents per AP mile, that's about 750USD, so 107USD/Night.
So... using the travel packages is worth it if I don't find a satisfactory hotel for less than 107USD/night.
...Correct thinking?
May 16, 2017, 4:06 am
#2343
In memoriam
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: MAN
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, IHG Spire, UA Silver, Dennis The Menace Fan Club
Posts: 1,457
If all your previous assumptions are correct then you're valuing 50k Aeroplan miles at $750 which indeed means the effective replacement of a Marriott 7-night cert should redeem at $107/night to come out evens.
I value a Marriott point at 1UScent, hence a 7-night Cat6 cert should come in at $250/nt but in practice the lack of flexibility incumbent in these certificates mean I value them at half their point value, $125/nt, which I find easy to obtain. Your $107/nt opportunity cost should therefore come out on top here $-for-$ pretty easily. Normally I would say here to choose carefully and that cert could redeem for $200/nt, but 7-night vacations frequently have little true flexibility which goes back to the reason I value the certificates so lowly...
I value a Marriott point at 1UScent, hence a 7-night Cat6 cert should come in at $250/nt but in practice the lack of flexibility incumbent in these certificates mean I value them at half their point value, $125/nt, which I find easy to obtain. Your $107/nt opportunity cost should therefore come out on top here $-for-$ pretty easily. Normally I would say here to choose carefully and that cert could redeem for $200/nt, but 7-night vacations frequently have little true flexibility which goes back to the reason I value the certificates so lowly...
May 16, 2017, 4:41 am
#2344
Join Date: Jun 2004
Programs: BD, DL, UA, AA, Marriott, SPG
Posts: 1,131
Just checking in to make sure my way of thinking is correct.
I have a 7 night stay in HKG coming up I have to book, so I figured I'll look into the travel packages. In Canada, so I'm comparing:
180'000 Amex MR = 90'000 SPG = 270k Marriott = 120'000 Alaska + 7 Nights Cat1-5 (though I'd probably upgrade to Cat6 to use the CY Hong Kong, so let's go with:
200'000 Amex MR = 100'000 SPG = 300k Marriott = 120'000 Alaska + 7 Nights @ CY Hong Kong
vs
200'000 Amex MR = e.g. 200'000 Aeroplan + pay Cash for 7 nights
Assuming AS miles are worth, say 25% more than AP, that's still the equivalent of ~150k
so essentially I'm hoping I get more than 50'000 worth of AP miles out of the 7 nights. Assuming ~ 1.5cents per AP mile, that's about 750USD, so 107USD/Night.
So... using the travel packages is worth it if I don't find a satisfactory hotel for less than 107USD/night.
...Correct thinking?
I have a 7 night stay in HKG coming up I have to book, so I figured I'll look into the travel packages. In Canada, so I'm comparing:
180'000 Amex MR = 90'000 SPG = 270k Marriott = 120'000 Alaska + 7 Nights Cat1-5 (though I'd probably upgrade to Cat6 to use the CY Hong Kong, so let's go with:
200'000 Amex MR = 100'000 SPG = 300k Marriott = 120'000 Alaska + 7 Nights @ CY Hong Kong
vs
200'000 Amex MR = e.g. 200'000 Aeroplan + pay Cash for 7 nights
Assuming AS miles are worth, say 25% more than AP, that's still the equivalent of ~150k
so essentially I'm hoping I get more than 50'000 worth of AP miles out of the 7 nights. Assuming ~ 1.5cents per AP mile, that's about 750USD, so 107USD/Night.
So... using the travel packages is worth it if I don't find a satisfactory hotel for less than 107USD/night.
...Correct thinking?
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...age-miles.html
May 16, 2017, 11:22 am
#2345
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,400
You can also transfer them to AA and get 150,000 miles.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...age-miles.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...age-miles.html
and okay! Now, to decide whether I can find something cheaper than 107/night and just pay cash or go travel package.... technically I also have to factor in the value of points I get from a cash booking but.... yeah. The CY HKG actually HAS 7 continuous days available for reward rooms on the exact days I'm going for so flexibilty isnt a concern atm.
May 16, 2017, 9:07 pm
#2346
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CGK/LAX
Programs: KF,JMB, OZ, SPG,AA,UA,AS
Posts: 1,163
May 18, 2017, 4:42 am
#2347
Join Date: Jun 2004
Programs: BD, DL, UA, AA, Marriott, SPG
Posts: 1,131
May 18, 2017, 6:39 pm
#2348
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: NYC,MIA,XFL
Programs: AA EXP, B6 Mosaic, DL PM
Posts: 863
May 20, 2017, 2:50 am
#2349
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 73
Just checking in to make sure my way of thinking is correct.
I have a 7 night stay in HKG coming up I have to book, so I figured I'll look into the travel packages. In Canada, so I'm comparing:
180'000 Amex MR = 90'000 SPG = 270k Marriott = 120'000 Alaska + 7 Nights Cat1-5 (though I'd probably upgrade to Cat6 to use the CY Hong Kong, so let's go with:
200'000 Amex MR = 100'000 SPG = 300k Marriott = 120'000 Alaska + 7 Nights @ CY Hong Kong
vs
200'000 Amex MR = e.g. 200'000 Aeroplan + pay Cash for 7 nights
Assuming AS miles are worth, say 25% more than AP, that's still the equivalent of ~150k
so essentially I'm hoping I get more than 50'000 worth of AP miles out of the 7 nights. Assuming ~ 1.5cents per AP mile, that's about 750USD, so 107USD/Night.
So... using the travel packages is worth it if I don't find a satisfactory hotel for less than 107USD/night.
...Correct thinking?
I have a 7 night stay in HKG coming up I have to book, so I figured I'll look into the travel packages. In Canada, so I'm comparing:
180'000 Amex MR = 90'000 SPG = 270k Marriott = 120'000 Alaska + 7 Nights Cat1-5 (though I'd probably upgrade to Cat6 to use the CY Hong Kong, so let's go with:
200'000 Amex MR = 100'000 SPG = 300k Marriott = 120'000 Alaska + 7 Nights @ CY Hong Kong
vs
200'000 Amex MR = e.g. 200'000 Aeroplan + pay Cash for 7 nights
Assuming AS miles are worth, say 25% more than AP, that's still the equivalent of ~150k
so essentially I'm hoping I get more than 50'000 worth of AP miles out of the 7 nights. Assuming ~ 1.5cents per AP mile, that's about 750USD, so 107USD/Night.
So... using the travel packages is worth it if I don't find a satisfactory hotel for less than 107USD/night.
...Correct thinking?
May 20, 2017, 11:04 am
#2350
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CGK/LAX
Programs: KF,JMB, OZ, SPG,AA,UA,AS
Posts: 1,163
May 20, 2017, 1:16 pm
#2351
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,400
Will post in time for the trip so I might go with that.
May 29, 2017, 12:53 pm
#2352
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: Curr Noob, Ex Road Warrior
Posts: 492
Can the Travel packages be used to book SPG properties some time next year? What category does Luxury Collection and St. Regis be in, if it is already decided? Thanks.
May 29, 2017, 5:29 pm
#2354
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,026
Has everyone's aa bonus posted within 5 days!