The mind of a front desk agent
#76
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Thanks fdguy. One thing I've always wonder is this - is there a "sweet spot" time to check in when hoping for an upgraded room (as a Gold/Plat)? From earlier comments it would appear that earlier (2-3pm?) would be better than later but I figured it best to ask the guy behind the desk.
Side note, I spend a couple hundred nights on the road every year and the only time I even consider asking is when I am with my better half.
Thanks fdguy. One thing I've always wonder is this - is there a "sweet spot" time to check in when hoping for an upgraded room (as a Gold/Plat)? From earlier comments it would appear that earlier (2-3pm?) would be better than later but I figured it best to ask the guy behind the desk.
Side note, I spend a couple hundred nights on the road every year and the only time I even consider asking is when I am with my better half.
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#78
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i'm one of them....if i'm on a one night stay traveling alone then i couldn't care less about a suite....
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You stated that your property didn't upgrade to suites? So how do you get away with only upgrading those who ask to "best available room"?
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LKO- what he is saying is that if they only have 15 rooms that are "better" in some way and 30 gold/plats checking in, they will give those rooms to the ones who ask. They CAN'T give them to everyone.
#81
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FDGUY, thank you for taking the time to provide perspective and responses. Much appreciated and most informative.
Like KEYSER, I could care the least about a suite when I am traveling on my own. What I do care about is not having a connecting room, not being directly across from an elevator, or next to the housekeeping supply room. And yet I seem to end up there more frequently than one would think.
I am always surprised at this - and as you indicate rooms are blocked for Plats, even more so. Is the person doing the room assignments that unfamiliar with the lay-out of the rooms and floors?
Like KEYSER, I could care the least about a suite when I am traveling on my own. What I do care about is not having a connecting room, not being directly across from an elevator, or next to the housekeeping supply room. And yet I seem to end up there more frequently than one would think.
I am always surprised at this - and as you indicate rooms are blocked for Plats, even more so. Is the person doing the room assignments that unfamiliar with the lay-out of the rooms and floors?
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Disclaimer--I rarely spend more than 2 nights in any given city and just don't care about being in a suite or on the concierge level (which I get most of the time anyway).
Give me an accessible room and I will be back at the front desk in a split second for a new room though.
#83
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It's quite possible. I would imagine this policy varies from property to property. I agree that Plat's should get the $100 if they are not offered the arrival gift, but one could take another route if faced with resistance.
For example, the $100 would come out of my paycheck if I gave you cash but if I did a $100 adjustment to your bill, it would not. I could also give you points citing guest recovery issues.
For example, the $100 would come out of my paycheck if I gave you cash but if I did a $100 adjustment to your bill, it would not. I could also give you points citing guest recovery issues.
1. that it was $50.
2. that while points were assigned, even if I wasn't asked...too bad.
3. at this particular property, that screwed up repeatedly over a week's time, that I had already gotten other compensations, so....again, too bad.
When should we inform of not being offered our platinum arrival gift? Next day? End of stay? After check-in process?
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depends on the type of property
ask them for the card that you are supposed to fill out. When they can't produce it, continue to push
keep pushing. If manager on duty refuses, call MR
I wait at least an hour, usually until the next morning.
I wait at least an hour, usually until the next morning.
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Legal Requirements for Stay-Over Guests
FDGUY, please comment on your experience and the legal framework of guests staying over after their reservation has expired by its own term.
When I was traveling on business, every week, mostly staying in the same few hotels, some would always extend us when we underestimated the work and could not leave town on time (and had not checked out yet). We were repeatedly told that in most states you cannot legally push a guest presently in the hotel out the door if they wanted to extend, even if that put the hotel in a rooms-available bind.
(But, I'm also guessing from time to time letting us stay over in our upgraded rooms led to some interesting speeches about status, unavailable upgrades, and being related to somebody named Bill. Or, perhaps even full-hotel unpleasant walk situations for very late arrivals.).
In a few alternative outcomes, I've had professional associates arrive back at their hotel to find their bags packed for them and told there was no space and they would be leaving. (In one case, the thrown-out overstay guest was a VP with Six Continents kryptonite status who had six weeks of upcoming reservations in the hotel deporting him--which got promptly cancelled).
When I was traveling on business, every week, mostly staying in the same few hotels, some would always extend us when we underestimated the work and could not leave town on time (and had not checked out yet). We were repeatedly told that in most states you cannot legally push a guest presently in the hotel out the door if they wanted to extend, even if that put the hotel in a rooms-available bind.
(But, I'm also guessing from time to time letting us stay over in our upgraded rooms led to some interesting speeches about status, unavailable upgrades, and being related to somebody named Bill. Or, perhaps even full-hotel unpleasant walk situations for very late arrivals.).
In a few alternative outcomes, I've had professional associates arrive back at their hotel to find their bags packed for them and told there was no space and they would be leaving. (In one case, the thrown-out overstay guest was a VP with Six Continents kryptonite status who had six weeks of upcoming reservations in the hotel deporting him--which got promptly cancelled).
#86
Join Date: Dec 2010
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FDGUY, please comment on your experience and the legal framework of guests staying over after their reservation has expired by its own term.
When I was traveling on business, every week, mostly staying in the same few hotels, some would always extend us when we underestimated the work and could not leave town on time (and had not checked out yet). We were repeatedly told that in most states you cannot legally push a guest presently in the hotel out the door if they wanted to extend, even if that put the hotel in a rooms-available bind.
(But, I'm also guessing from time to time letting us stay over in our upgraded rooms led to some interesting speeches about status, unavailable upgrades, and being related to somebody named Bill. Or, perhaps even full-hotel unpleasant walk situations for very late arrivals.).
In a few alternative outcomes, I've had professional associates arrive back at their hotel to find their bags packed for them and told there was no space and they would be leaving. (In one case, the thrown-out overstay guest was a VP with Six Continents kryptonite status who had six weeks of upcoming reservations in the hotel deporting him--which got promptly cancelled).
When I was traveling on business, every week, mostly staying in the same few hotels, some would always extend us when we underestimated the work and could not leave town on time (and had not checked out yet). We were repeatedly told that in most states you cannot legally push a guest presently in the hotel out the door if they wanted to extend, even if that put the hotel in a rooms-available bind.
(But, I'm also guessing from time to time letting us stay over in our upgraded rooms led to some interesting speeches about status, unavailable upgrades, and being related to somebody named Bill. Or, perhaps even full-hotel unpleasant walk situations for very late arrivals.).
In a few alternative outcomes, I've had professional associates arrive back at their hotel to find their bags packed for them and told there was no space and they would be leaving. (In one case, the thrown-out overstay guest was a VP with Six Continents kryptonite status who had six weeks of upcoming reservations in the hotel deporting him--which got promptly cancelled).
#87
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FDGUY, please comment on your experience and the legal framework of guests staying over after their reservation has expired by its own term.
When I was traveling on business, every week, mostly staying in the same few hotels, some would always extend us when we underestimated the work and could not leave town on time (and had not checked out yet). We were repeatedly told that in most states you cannot legally push a guest presently in the hotel out the door if they wanted to extend, even if that put the hotel in a rooms-available bind.
(But, I'm also guessing from time to time letting us stay over in our upgraded rooms led to some interesting speeches about status, unavailable upgrades, and being related to somebody named Bill. Or, perhaps even full-hotel unpleasant walk situations for very late arrivals.).
In a few alternative outcomes, I've had professional associates arrive back at their hotel to find their bags packed for them and told there was no space and they would be leaving. (In one case, the thrown-out overstay guest was a VP with Six Continents kryptonite status who had six weeks of upcoming reservations in the hotel deporting him--which got promptly cancelled).
When I was traveling on business, every week, mostly staying in the same few hotels, some would always extend us when we underestimated the work and could not leave town on time (and had not checked out yet). We were repeatedly told that in most states you cannot legally push a guest presently in the hotel out the door if they wanted to extend, even if that put the hotel in a rooms-available bind.
(But, I'm also guessing from time to time letting us stay over in our upgraded rooms led to some interesting speeches about status, unavailable upgrades, and being related to somebody named Bill. Or, perhaps even full-hotel unpleasant walk situations for very late arrivals.).
In a few alternative outcomes, I've had professional associates arrive back at their hotel to find their bags packed for them and told there was no space and they would be leaving. (In one case, the thrown-out overstay guest was a VP with Six Continents kryptonite status who had six weeks of upcoming reservations in the hotel deporting him--which got promptly cancelled).
Every time we would call the number attached to the reservation, but it was usually an outdated number, a travel agency, or an office number who would not give out a cell number.
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this is not how it should be and is not how it is in the majority of hotels...the OP is speaking from his/her experience at one specific hotel
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The hotel can't legally evict unless there is a situation regarding payment. If a hotel sees luggage in the room at 7 pm and you are due to check out that day, the hotel may see that and decide to extend your stay whether you like it or not. However, if the guest comes to the desk and asks to extend and the hotel has no availability whatsoever, then the hotel may inform the guest that there is no availability tonight and will need to seek accommodations elsewhere.

