Former SPG Hotels Leaving Marriott
Jan 21, 2019, 10:07 am
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Former SPG Hotels Leaving Marriott
More and more former high end SPG properties are leaving the Marriott flag since the merger. :-( miss the #SPGlifeSt. Regis Dubai
W Dubai Habtoor City
Westin Dubai Al Habtoor City
Parker Palm Springs
Le Parker Meridien New York
Hotel Des Indes
St. Regis Princeville
The Principal Madrid
Westin Sydney
The Westin-Vendome Paris
Prague Sheraton
W Las Vegas & SLS Las Vegas
W St. Petersburg
St. Regis Dubai Polo Club
Hotel Fürstenhof
W Beijing Chang’an
Sheraton Gran Canaria
Convento do Espinheiro
Sheraton Prague Charles Square Hotel
Hôtel Americano(Design Hotel)
Hotel Talisa Vail(Luxury Collection)
Hotel Klaus K (Design Hotel)
Westin Bellevue Dresden
Westin Prince Toronto
Sheraton Shenzhen Dameisha
The Met Hotel (Design Hotel)
W Hotel - NYC Downtown
Sheraton Grand Los Cabos Hacienda Del Mar
The Westin Awaji Island Resort & Conference Center
Last edited by Star_Guy; Oct 30, 2020 at 7:28 am Reason: adding another hotel
Jan 21, 2019, 10:25 am
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Did you pick this up from TPG post? If so, maybe you should give them some credit! (even thought they are not my favorite)
https://thepointsguy.com/guides/luxu...-since-merger/
Some of those hotel left for reasons likely not associated with the merger. W and SLS LV had issues for a while with SPG as did the Parker NYC.
https://thepointsguy.com/guides/luxu...-since-merger/
Some of those hotel left for reasons likely not associated with the merger. W and SLS LV had issues for a while with SPG as did the Parker NYC.
Jan 21, 2019, 10:36 am
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Did you pick this up from TPG post? If so, maybe you should give them some credit! (even thought they are not my favorite)
https://thepointsguy.com/guides/luxu...-since-merger/
Some of those hotel left for reasons likely not associated with the merger. W and SLS LV had issues for a while with SPG as did the Parker NYC.
https://thepointsguy.com/guides/luxu...-since-merger/
Some of those hotel left for reasons likely not associated with the merger. W and SLS LV had issues for a while with SPG as did the Parker NYC.
I read that lol, but I wrote some of this on MRI page..
https://insiders.marriottrewards.com/thread/56487 the points guy even used my link for the principal Madrid
Jan 21, 2019, 10:45 am
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I'm no fan of the new Marriott, but based on the publicly available information, most of those properties left for reasons unrelated to the merger, including several where the property owners would not commit to upgrades to maintain brand standards.
Jan 21, 2019, 10:47 am
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Does anyone have experience with stays at departing properties in terms of how they honor elite (in my case PP) benefits? I have a stay at the Westin Sydney booked for 7-Apr to 14-Apr. Don't really care about getting a suite but would like a room with a good view. Do they ever sort of start cheaping out on the lounge offerings or anything like that too?
Jan 21, 2019, 10:52 am
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Sorry but Marriott is the reason we lost Parker NYC and Palm Springs. These were two great properties. Thanks Marriott! Ughh 
Here is proof, directly from the hotel owners—> "Le Meridien was a wonderful partner, but now that it is part of a much larger organization, it no longer aligns with who we are and we want to be."
https://insiders.marriottrewards.com...comment-233502
Here is proof, directly from the hotel owners—> "Le Meridien was a wonderful partner, but now that it is part of a much larger organization, it no longer aligns with who we are and we want to be."
https://insiders.marriottrewards.com...comment-233502
Jan 21, 2019, 10:52 am
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More and more former SPG hotels leaving the Marriott flag since the merger. :-( miss the #SPGlife
St. Regis Dubai
W Dubai Habtoor City
Westin Dubai Al Habtoor City
Parker Palm Springs
Le Parker Meridien New York
Hotel Des Indes
St. Regis Princeville
The Principal Madrid
Westin Sydney
The Westin-Vendome Paris
Prague Sheraton
W Las Vegas & SLS Las Vegas
W St. Petersburg
St. Regis Dubai Polo Club
Hotel Fürstenhof
W Beijing Chang’an
Marriott acquired Starwood in September 2016 and merged the loyalty programs in August 2018. Marriott has been boasting 6,700+ hotels -- a number that continues to grow. The number of hotels under Starwood-legacy brands continues to grow as part of that.
Yes, at a hotel a company the size of Marriott, where will always be some reflagging, including some high-profile properties. Some reflagging can happen when a hotel is sold and the new owner wants to convert it. Other reflagging can happen when a franchise contract reaches the end of its term and the hotel owners projects there's more money to be made without a brand affiliation or with a different brand. And, of course, there are cases when a hotel owner loses a franchise because of the failure to comply with brand standards.
Marriott has also been adding high-profile locations. The following Forbes article from December 2017 discusses new hotels under luxury brands, , including many Starwood-Legacy ones. The article does not include Westin, Le Méridien, and Tribute Portfolio. Also, the article does not include hotels announced in 2018. (And it's likely that some of the details in the article are now obsolete.)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggol.../#22164fcd6995
If you dig around at Marriott's Development website at https://hotel-development.marriott.com, you'll find impressive pipeline counts across Marriott's portfolio of brands.
Jan 21, 2019, 10:55 am
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In some cases, Marriott pushes hotels to get up to standards and some choose to leave. Others seek to use their relationship with Marriott to cut a deal with Hilton (Dubai properties).
Far more properties are joining than leaving.
Jan 21, 2019, 11:00 am
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It's not just a matter of the total number of properties in the program, but rather how many hotels there are in which I want to stay. I hate the idea of some bunch of Fairfields or Courtyards replacing Des Indes or Furstenhof or a StR. For me, this is the issue. Most of Starriotts 6700 hotels are ones where I hope I never have to stay.
Jan 21, 2019, 11:13 am
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Jan 21, 2019, 11:16 am
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Exactly and I'm sure SPG and then MR had it with the NYC property not renovating. Still no renovation even years after leaving SPG/MR.
Jan 21, 2019, 11:36 am
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Jan 21, 2019, 11:43 am
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It's not just a matter of the total number of properties in the program, but rather how many hotels there are in which I want to stay. I hate the idea of some bunch of Fairfields or Courtyards replacing Des Indes or Furstenhof or a StR. For me, this is the issue. Most of Starriotts 6700 hotels are ones where I hope I never have to stay.
