Former SPG Hotels Leaving Marriott
 

Did you pick this up from TPG post? If so, maybe you should give them some credit! (even thought they are not my favorite)

https://thepointsguy.com/guides/luxu...-since-merger/

Some of those hotel left for reasons likely not associated with the merger. W and SLS LV had issues for a while with SPG as did the Parker NYC.

I'm no fan of the new Marriott, but based on the publicly available information, most of those properties left for reasons unrelated to the merger, including several where the property owners would not commit to upgrades to maintain brand standards.

Does anyone have experience with stays at departing properties in terms of how they honor elite (in my case PP) benefits? I have a stay at the Westin Sydney booked for 7-Apr to 14-Apr. Don't really care about getting a suite but would like a room with a good view. Do they ever sort of start cheaping out on the lounge offerings or anything like that too?

The intention of the OP seems to be to create the impression that there's a net decrease in the number of high-profile Starwood-legacy properties since the merger -- and to attribute the defections to Marriott's loyalty program merger. But there's actually a net increase, and it's likely that most of these defections would have happened even if Starwood had remained an independent company.

Marriott acquired Starwood in September 2016 and merged the loyalty programs in August 2018. Marriott has been boasting 6,700+ hotels -- a number that continues to grow. The number of hotels under Starwood-legacy brands continues to grow as part of that.

Yes, at a hotel a company the size of Marriott, where will always be some reflagging, including some high-profile properties. Some reflagging can happen when a hotel is sold and the new owner wants to convert it. Other reflagging can happen when a franchise contract reaches the end of its term and the hotel owners projects there's more money to be made without a brand affiliation or with a different brand. And, of course, there are cases when a hotel owner loses a franchise because of the failure to comply with brand standards.

Marriott has also been adding high-profile locations. The following Forbes article from December 2017 discusses new hotels under luxury brands, , including many Starwood-Legacy ones. The article does not include Westin, Le Méridien, and Tribute Portfolio. Also, the article does not include hotels announced in 2018. (And it's likely that some of the details in the article are now obsolete.)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggol.../#22164fcd6995

If you dig around at Marriott's Development website at https://hotel-development.marriott.com, you'll find impressive pipeline counts across Marriott's portfolio of brands.

Exactly, I haven't tracked which hotels joined/left SPG over the years before the merger but reflagging is routine and hotels do it for a variety of reasons.

In some cases, Marriott pushes hotels to get up to standards and some choose to leave. Others seek to use their relationship with Marriott to cut a deal with Hilton (Dubai properties).

Far more properties are joining than leaving.

lol, you mean the properties that got caught flat-out defrauding SPG on their award reimbursement rates? I'm sure that had nothing to do with their departure ;)

Exactly and I'm sure SPG and then MR had it with the NYC property not renovating. Still no renovation even years after leaving SPG/MR.

Do you have a link/details on this? Am curious.

Yeah, because the first thing Marriott thinks is oh, let's replace a St. Regis w/ a FFI/CY :rolleyes: