Jan 22, 2019, 11:55 pm
Last edit by: BobbySteel
Current Status of the Grandfathering Sweep to Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite / Lifetime Titanium Elite
As of 1/26 Members are reporting a SWEEP HAS OCCURRED LTPPE/LTitaniumE. Some have reported discrepancies between app and website still.
A sweep has also occurred of LTP qualifying from previous LTG on legacy rules.
Request: Please DO NOT post asking if the above has occurred or advising all of us that nothing has changed. Please continue reading this wiki for updates.
If you have legitimately been swept and your website account shows that you have truly been grandfathered to Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite, then yes please do add a post with this information with useful details for others and this wiki will then be updated accordingly with your information.
As of 1/26 Members are reporting a SWEEP HAS OCCURRED LTPPE/LTitaniumE. Some have reported discrepancies between app and website still.
A sweep has also occurred of LTP qualifying from previous LTG on legacy rules.
Request: Please DO NOT post asking if the above has occurred or advising all of us that nothing has changed. Please continue reading this wiki for updates.
If you have legitimately been swept and your website account shows that you have truly been grandfathered to Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite, then yes please do add a post with this information with useful details for others and this wiki will then be updated accordingly with your information.
Does anyone know when the sweep for LTPP will be happening?
Jan 28, 2019, 6:42 pm
#316
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 38
Mine showed up yesterday -- I'm Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite.
Over 1000 nights and over 2,000,000 points.
I was worried because I thought my over 100,000 SPG points would count, but in July found out they didn't count. I was lucky and got to stay for work at the JW in Dubai.
Over 1000 nights and over 2,000,000 points.
I was worried because I thought my over 100,000 SPG points would count, but in July found out they didn't count. I was lucky and got to stay for work at the JW in Dubai.
Jan 28, 2019, 6:47 pm
#317
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Fort Lauderdale
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Life Time Titanium Elite/ Hilton Honors Diamond
Posts: 32
My sweep happened.....finally. LTPPE. 1070 Nights; 13 Years Plat. Interesting that they did not send an email or notification to the app that it had been done.
Oh well, at least it happened.
Oh well, at least it happened.
Jan 28, 2019, 6:52 pm
#318
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: COS
Programs: UA Gold/1.5MM (several years running now!), Marriott LTTE, Hertz Prez
Posts: 1,899
What can I say? My glass is always half empty like that.
Jan 28, 2019, 6:58 pm
#319
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Texas, U.S.A.
Posts: 19,523
Also just swept to LTPPE with 992 nights & 14 years Platinum. Funny thing though...I was at 1,002 nights (screenshots saved) but my last few stays seem to have my count going DOWN! Hope I don't stay my way out of lifetime status. 
Jan 28, 2019, 8:16 pm
#321
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1MM, Marriott LTP, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Explorist, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,003
It may be that something's coming soon, or it may be that there's significance to the fact that no notifications have yet been made? What if they run a sweep to add 2018 credit(s) and also at the same time claw back inadvertent linked account years (potentially resulting in a break-even or net-negative)? I don't think anyone with less than, say, 14 years (myself included) should consider themselves to have been granted LTPP until some sort of formal notification via e-mail or snail mail has been received.
What can I say? My glass is always half empty like that.
What can I say? My glass is always half empty like that.
I, for one, don’t have any confidence in Marriott IT. I think they should just add last year’s status without touching anything else. Those folks who think they have double counted years should submit a ticket and get those years subtracted. Where am I going wrong here?
Jan 28, 2019, 8:26 pm
#323
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: COS
Programs: UA Gold/1.5MM (several years running now!), Marriott LTTE, Hertz Prez
Posts: 1,899
Please don't think for a second that I'm advocating for any kind of claw-back! But as FTers continue to post about wildly inflated year counts, the more I think waiting to see some kind of formal notification in my inbox or mailbox is prudent. And hopefully that will be taking place in short order...
Jan 28, 2019, 8:33 pm
#324
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, AA Gold MM, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,770
More likely overlapping years with Marriott and SPG. Remember with SPG you could get Plat with 50 nights, or even 25 stays.
I’ll bet when I combine my accounts, I’ll have 16 yrs of Plat status even though I never earned status with Marriott. I just realized however that I did have comp Gold status with Marriott thanks to my UA 1K status. That must be why I have 5 yrs of Plat status with Marriott.
I’ll bet when I combine my accounts, I’ll have 16 yrs of Plat status even though I never earned status with Marriott. I just realized however that I did have comp Gold status with Marriott thanks to my UA 1K status. That must be why I have 5 yrs of Plat status with Marriott.
The full stats are even more impressive
Years as Silver, Gold or Platinum: 39
Years as Gold or Platinum: 23
Years as Platinum: 19
I'm not sure when MR program even started, but I did not join any program in 1979.
Jan 28, 2019, 8:47 pm
#325
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: COS
Programs: UA Gold/1.5MM (several years running now!), Marriott LTTE, Hertz Prez
Posts: 1,899
Edit: Other explanations include that they simply forgot they'd signed up for RewardsPlus and maintained minimally Gold or had LT status with UA - that sort of thing.
Jan 28, 2019, 8:57 pm
#326
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, AA Gold MM, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,770
In the worst-case scenario, it could be worse than even just that. I believe that account linking became a thing in 2017, no? If I'm correct there (pretty sure that's when I did it), then imagine that someone with linked accounts stayed 50 nights at either Marriott or SPG in calendar year 2017. This member earned Plat for 2017 and also for 2018 - in both programs. Did that perhaps wind up being counted as four years, even if zero nights were stayed in either Marriott or SPG in 2018?? It seems improbable, but then again so many FTers are reporting inflations of their year counts in excess of even those extra three, so...
Edit: Other explanations include that they simply forgot they'd signed up for RewardsPlus and maintained minimally Gold or had LT status with UA - that sort of thing.
Edit: Other explanations include that they simply forgot they'd signed up for RewardsPlus and maintained minimally Gold or had LT status with UA - that sort of thing.
Jan 28, 2019, 9:15 pm
#327
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1MM, Marriott LTP, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Explorist, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,003
My biggest concern is Marriott IT can’t do math correctly. Overcounting doesn’t really do much harm to anyone but incorrect math in clawback could potentially harm people who have really achieved the LT level. I think everyone should be concerned about such possibility.
Jan 28, 2019, 9:29 pm
#328
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: COS
Programs: UA Gold/1.5MM (several years running now!), Marriott LTTE, Hertz Prez
Posts: 1,899
There's an elephant sitting in the room but I've been hesitant to acknowledge it outright. It's basically this: If 2018 was already counted (potentially erroneously twice) as of Aug '18 and members went out of their way to earn Plat in 2018 expecting to add a year to their tally and in doing so breach some threshold, then said/purely hypothetical over counting would indeed be problematic - particularly for thresholds that can no longer be breached.
Jan 28, 2019, 10:11 pm
#329
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1MM, Marriott LTP, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Explorist, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,003
There's an elephant sitting in the room but I've been hesitant to acknowledge it outright. It's basically this: If 2018 was already counted (potentially erroneously twice) as of Aug '18 and members went out of their way to earn Plat in 2018 expecting to add a year to their tally and in doing so breach some threshold, then said/purely hypothetical over counting would indeed be problematic - particularly for thresholds that can no longer be breached.
Jan 28, 2019, 10:36 pm
#330
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: COS
Programs: UA Gold/1.5MM (several years running now!), Marriott LTTE, Hertz Prez
Posts: 1,899
And then again it could simply be that there are multiple teams working not in perfect harmony, and so a 2018 sweep has yet to occur which will indeed bump years, and then another LTPP/LTTE sweep will simply be necessary (not likely a huge undertaking at the end of the day, and I don't think necessarily an unprecedented approach for Marriott IT).