The Idiots who Design Marriott Rooms
#376
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During my last stay at the Ren in Boca Raton, they had a whole trailer of dressers delivered and installed in every room. They were tired of constantly moving the small number they had from room to room as just about every guest commented on the fact that there was no dresser.
After their winter makeover, they at least kept their full closets and still had a desk chair and small desk space with lamp. More of an enhanced ledge, but it was deeper than the nook under the TV that the Marriotts have been getting.
After their winter makeover, they at least kept their full closets and still had a desk chair and small desk space with lamp. More of an enhanced ledge, but it was deeper than the nook under the TV that the Marriotts have been getting.
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Is it? Or has the changes actually been overall well received? Is FT Marriott indicative of the overall Marriott consumer or is it a tiny minority of the most well seasoned consumer? I don't have the answers and we will never know for sure.
Stayed in a Marriott with no desk for the first time and didn't bothere me at all (Was on business and 45 years old for anyone curious).
Stayed in a Marriott with no desk for the first time and didn't bothere me at all (Was on business and 45 years old for anyone curious).
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Is it? Or has the changes actually been overall well received? Is FT Marriott indicative of the overall Marriott consumer or is it a tiny minority of the most well seasoned consumer? I don't have the answers and we will never know for sure.
Stayed in a Marriott with no desk for the first time and didn't bothere me at all (Was on business and 45 years old for anyone curious).
Stayed in a Marriott with no desk for the first time and didn't bothere me at all (Was on business and 45 years old for anyone curious).
I must say, though, the distinction of travelling for 'business' and for 'leisure' is getting to be a fuzzy one. more and more people work from their computers - not just people who are self employed or who are writers/bloggers by profession, but even people who get 'business' work done on 'leisure' trips. So even if it's not a hotel intended for business travelers, I think a lot of people would prefer it to have a desk. I know I would - I"m an academic, so I'm kind of always working, and I need a desk and internet access wherever I am.
Good to hear they've been getting complaints about it. Hopefully I never have to see these changes myself.
#380
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They have reversed course and desks are again part of standard layout
Amazing that it took so long to realize this was a dumb idea from the outset.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/desk-back...134411202.html
Amazing that it took so long to realize this was a dumb idea from the outset.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/desk-back...134411202.html
#381
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They have reversed course and desks are again part of standard layout
Amazing that it took so long to realize this was a dumb idea from the outset.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/desk-back...134411202.html
Amazing that it took so long to realize this was a dumb idea from the outset.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/desk-back...134411202.html
But - final paragraph:
"The redesign has been completed in more than 10,000 rooms at 25 hotels, including Marriotts in Charlotte, North Carolina, and in Brooklyn, New York, and another 25 hotels are scheduled to have renovations completed by the end of the year. A total of 108 hotels are in the pipeline."
Charlotte post-renovation doesn't have a desk.
BTW - also from the article:
"The desks in what Marriott is calling its "modern guest rooms" are on wheels so you can move them around the room to work where you want."
That only works if you've got a matching chair of the appropriate height. Some of the moving around have moved around to a sofa where the back is farther away or you have to lean forward uncomfortably. FWIW - I don't have anything against desks that move, as long as you've got a desk chair too.
Cheers.
#382
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That's interesting & if true, yeah.
But - final paragraph:
"The redesign has been completed in more than 10,000 rooms at 25 hotels, including Marriotts in Charlotte, North Carolina, and in Brooklyn, New York, and another 25 hotels are scheduled to have renovations completed by the end of the year. A total of 108 hotels are in the pipeline."
Charlotte post-renovation doesn't have a desk.
BTW - also from the article:
"The desks in what Marriott is calling its "modern guest rooms" are on wheels so you can move them around the room to work where you want."
That only works if you've got a matching chair of the appropriate height. Some of the moving around have moved around to a sofa where the back is farther away or you have to lean forward uncomfortably. FWIW - I don't have anything against desks that move, as long as you've got a desk chair too.
Cheers.
But - final paragraph:
"The redesign has been completed in more than 10,000 rooms at 25 hotels, including Marriotts in Charlotte, North Carolina, and in Brooklyn, New York, and another 25 hotels are scheduled to have renovations completed by the end of the year. A total of 108 hotels are in the pipeline."
Charlotte post-renovation doesn't have a desk.
BTW - also from the article:
"The desks in what Marriott is calling its "modern guest rooms" are on wheels so you can move them around the room to work where you want."
That only works if you've got a matching chair of the appropriate height. Some of the moving around have moved around to a sofa where the back is farther away or you have to lean forward uncomfortably. FWIW - I don't have anything against desks that move, as long as you've got a desk chair too.
Cheers.
#383
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During my last stay at the Ren in Boca Raton, they had a whole trailer of dressers delivered and installed in every room. They were tired of constantly moving the small number they had from room to room as just about every guest commented on the fact that there was no dresser.
After their winter makeover, they at least kept their full closets and still had a desk chair and small desk space with lamp. More of an enhanced ledge, but it was deeper than the nook under the TV that the Marriotts have been getting.
After their winter makeover, they at least kept their full closets and still had a desk chair and small desk space with lamp. More of an enhanced ledge, but it was deeper than the nook under the TV that the Marriotts have been getting.
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#385
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Ohh, they know.
They were supposed to put in dressers before my arrival, but that didn't happen. Plus this doesn't help with the crap desk (a ledge against the wall), the crap nightstands (no drawers), removal of full length mirror, narrower shower/no tub, etc. It was an almost inconceivable waste of money as the furniture wasn't that pad and they didn't do anything about the things that needed it (better color scheme, better TVs).
They did go to readily avialable feather pillows though, another one of my gripes, the only one fixed.
They were supposed to put in dressers before my arrival, but that didn't happen. Plus this doesn't help with the crap desk (a ledge against the wall), the crap nightstands (no drawers), removal of full length mirror, narrower shower/no tub, etc. It was an almost inconceivable waste of money as the furniture wasn't that pad and they didn't do anything about the things that needed it (better color scheme, better TVs).
They did go to readily avialable feather pillows though, another one of my gripes, the only one fixed.
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#389
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none of this addresses my biggest beef... i get to my room after a long day, all i want to do is relax and watch a little tv... i see a nice, big HDTV, turn it on and 80% of the channels are fuzzy SD channels. plus, there is no program guide, a feature that is available on 100% of all cable and satellite systems in the world, and it takes 5 seconds to change the channel. it would be nice if these things were addressed in any remodeled hotel.
as far as the this desk situation goes, i don't think i care much. 90% of my travel is for business and i can take it or leave it. it's a bigger problem that the chairs in the rooms are uncomfortable and the furniture is often needlessly BIG. do i need a six-drawer dresser for a three-night stay? NO, and since most people stay very short-term, no one else does either.
and no, i am not a "millennial"
as far as the this desk situation goes, i don't think i care much. 90% of my travel is for business and i can take it or leave it. it's a bigger problem that the chairs in the rooms are uncomfortable and the furniture is often needlessly BIG. do i need a six-drawer dresser for a three-night stay? NO, and since most people stay very short-term, no one else does either.
and no, i am not a "millennial"
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none of this addresses my biggest beef... i get to my room after a long day, all i want to do is relax and watch a little tv... i see a nice, big HDTV, turn it on and 80% of the channels are fuzzy SD channels. plus, there is no program guide, a feature that is available on 100% of all cable and satellite systems in the world, and it takes 5 seconds to change the channel. it would be nice if these things were addressed in any remodeled hotel.
as far as the this desk situation goes, i don't think i care much. 90% of my travel is for business and i can take it or leave it. it's a bigger problem that the chairs in the rooms are uncomfortable and the furniture is often needlessly BIG. do i need a six-drawer dresser for a three-night stay? NO, and since most people stay very short-term, no one else does either.
and no, i am not a "millennial"
as far as the this desk situation goes, i don't think i care much. 90% of my travel is for business and i can take it or leave it. it's a bigger problem that the chairs in the rooms are uncomfortable and the furniture is often needlessly BIG. do i need a six-drawer dresser for a three-night stay? NO, and since most people stay very short-term, no one else does either.
and no, i am not a "millennial"