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Old Jun 26, 2017, 2:00 am
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by captainbaker
We have roughly 300 flight crews and all are Marriott people. There are a few who are really anal about the whole 'Being recognized at a Platinum member'.

Ive invoked the $100 rule 3 times in 20 years. The last time was 5 years ago at a Marriott casino in Puerto Rico. We walked up to the front desk and the person behind the desk would not put down her cell (texting). My flight attendant said 'excuse me' after about a minute. CRS looked up, rolled her eyes and slammed down her cell.

It went down hill from there. No thank you for being a Plat member, just lots of aggravation from us interrupting her twitter war. We finished up and regrouped back a half hour later in the lobby bar. We all felt a little disrespected as regular guests, let alone Platinum etc. Long story short, I asked for the $100, she said there is no such thing. The Shift manager confirmed the claim. I told him I would call Salt Lake while he looks it up. About 10 minutes later, he walks over to our table and asks to talk to me in private. I assumed so he could make things right and apologize. Nope, he doubles down. "Do you really need the $100? Are you really that poor? So you want her to get fired?"

I responded, "No, No and thats your call". He had the $100 bill in his pocket along with a receipt for me to sign. At that point, I told him to get two more $100 bills for my crew members. I should have written a letter, but when I write my first letter to Marriott, I want it to carry some weight.
... and why would the shift manager not be subject to being fired too? He also did not know/follow the rules either so her neck should not have been the only one at risk.

I give them the chance to fix things and if they fail then let the dice fall as they may.
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Old Jun 27, 2017, 1:11 am
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Originally Posted by nacho
I have been to 4.5 out of 5 hotels on TA and I would only give 2 at max. Modern rooms, comfortable bed...... basically they are made things up unless these people can fall asleep on a floor and living in a haunted house.
While I know that I am responding to an old post, let me assure you that there are people who are this sheltered.

I recently stayed at the JW Marriott New Orleans where a couple was gushing at checkout over how beautiful the property was, how nice, large, and luxurious the rooms were, how comfortable the bed was, etc...

This might have been true when I stayed there nearly ten years ago, but as the rooms are the exact same as they were then, it certainly isn't true now...

While to them it was one of the nicest hotels they have stayed at, to me it was an old, musty, dilapidated, and tiny room with a huge and noisy gap underneath the door and mediocre service to boot.
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Old Jun 27, 2017, 6:05 am
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Since this thread is over 16 years old, I have to ask - is "the Box" still being given out as the PAG? I have been chasing points and always took the 500 points, so never needed to know; now that I reached Lifetime Plat status I stared thinking the "gift" might be preferable. Any thoughts?
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Old Jul 19, 2017, 11:54 pm
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Properties seem to be missing the gift more and more as of late and paying out in cash at checkout less and less.

I have had the PAG missed seven times over the past two months (MUCH higher than in the past), and four of the properties argued that they'd cut me a check which I would receive in 7-14 days.

I had successfully argued each property that it was to be paid in cash at checkout until two nights ago at the Renaissance Suites Charlotte Airport (which has missed my gift in the past and paid me in cash despite management claims that they have issued checks for at least the past nine years).

I contacted several levels of people (including managers) at Marriott Customer Care and Marriott Rewards, and they all pretty much said the same thing, that it is now to be issued via a check or that the property can decide how to issue it, but that there is no policy that it be paid in cash at checkout.

Which means that there is virtually no recourse if one claims the guarantee, the property "agrees", then never fulfills the compensation duty [apparently now via a two week old check].

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Old Jul 20, 2017, 12:53 am
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They cannot issue a receipt?
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Old Jul 20, 2017, 11:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Points Scrounger
They cannot issue a receipt?
I am not sure what this means?
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Old Jul 20, 2017, 11:02 pm
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What I meant was that if they are going to give you a check later, perhaps the hotel could give you something on their letterhead indicating that you were in entitled to the check so that you would have a document to follow up with.
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Old Jul 21, 2017, 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by Points Scrounger
What I meant was that if they are going to give you a check later, perhaps the hotel could give you something on their letterhead indicating that you were in entitled to the check so that you would have a document to follow up with.
+1 Hotel should be able to issue some kind of documentation for it. Worst case, I guess you could call MR while still on property and ask them to annotate the reservation or otherwise document it in the system. Would be a lot of hassle, but sometimes it is about the principle of the issue.

Fortunately I very rarely run into issues with missing PAG gifts. I think I only collected the cash once at a Springhill Suites many years ago. In general if the property acknowledges the mistake and corrects it, I don't push for the cash payment. The one time I did collect it the property insisted on paying it out. On the other hand if I run into a property that refuses to acknowledge the mistake and resists paying out, then I would push very hard to get the payment. So far that hasn't been necessary. YMMV....

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Old Aug 23, 2017, 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by chix
Hello everyone,

I am presently staying at this recently converted Wyndham. They are evidently in transition and do not know much about the Marriott program and most certainly are not aware of the Platinum Amenity Guarantee.

They failed to live up to multiple Platinum benefits and even admitted they did not offer the Amenity at check in.

I asked for the $100 guarantee and they say that Delta Hotels "do not participate" and they even claim they checked with Marriott Rewards. I asked for the name of who they spoke to and they had no name.

The proof is in this picture and link below that Delta participates.

They are trying to get out of the guarantee by offering a thousand or two Marriott Points.

I declined the offer and he said the offer is coming from the GM and that is the best they can do.

I said I will talk to the GM in the morning.

Crazy stupid that I have to argue with them about their participation.

I am on hold with MR customer relations to open a case.

Any thoughts in the meantime?

Everybody says here that you should not check out without resolution or you forfeit the guarantee.

I really just want to leave in the morning without drama!

Thanks all!


https://www.marriott.com/marriott-re...s/guarantee.mi
I stayed at another newly converted Delta hotel (Richmond, VA).

What a difference a great team makes.

Greeted by every team member like they really care about their guests.

I ran into the GM in the hallway and you could tell how happy he is to have a newly minted property.

Made me think about the team in Hunt Valley and how amazingly different their attitudes are and how they just did not care.
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Old Aug 29, 2017, 8:16 pm
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Just had this paid out in cash at Delta Norfolk, VA. GM was on site and just had me sign a accounting receipt and handed me 5 $20s.

Definitely no reason to use mobile check-in.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 5:12 am
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Originally Posted by Jon Maiman
+1 Hotel should be able to issue some kind of documentation for it. Worst case, I guess you could call MR while still on property and ask them to annotate the reservation or otherwise document it in the system. Would be a lot of hassle, but sometimes it is about the principle of the issue.

Fortunately I very rarely run into issues with missing PAG gifts. I think I only collected the cash once at a Springhill Suites many years ago. In general if the property acknowledges the mistake and corrects it, I don't push for the cash payment. The one time I did collect it the property insisted on paying it out. On the other hand if I run into a property that refuses to acknowledge the mistake and resists paying out, then I would push very hard to get the payment. So far that hasn't been necessary. YMMV....

--Jon
A huge problem is that properties always "claim" we want points (or that if we don't say anything then it's points), but the whole PAG is about a "choice". This is what I imagine Mr. Marriott's way of PAG:

"Welcome! Thanks for being a Platinum member and as a platinum member you are entitled to a gift from us, and here's your choice......"

Maybe a lot of road warriors got fed up with listening to this 300 times a year so that the properties "listened" and mute the speech.

I do get this in Asia, and sometimes in Europe (they do remember because there's a silver card attached to the keycards but they see it as a chore in front of me). In the US - if they remember they ask (to be fair I don't stay at FS much in the US). I think they should put in the PAG option in mobile check-in.

I was talking to a MR CS about a missing PAG at the property and he told the FD about the PAG and the FD pressed some button and gave me the point, and then the CS said they gave you point so there's no issue! I insisted that I have never asked for points and then that FD said, 'go ahead and grab yourself of a bottle of water'.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by seawolf
Just had this paid out in cash at Delta Norfolk, VA. GM was on site and just had me sign a accounting receipt and handed me 5 $20s.

Definitely no reason to use mobile check-in.
Even with the mobile check in they are supposed to give ou the option.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by Jon Maiman
if the property acknowledges the mistake and corrects it, I don't push for the cash payment. The one time I did collect it the property insisted on paying it out. On the other hand if I run into a property that refuses to acknowledge the mistake and resists paying out, then I would push very hard to get the payment. So far that hasn't been necessary. YMMV....

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Jon. I think you have the true spirit of the problem. All make mistakes, if they apologize and correct the problem. So what . But if they are a jerk, respond as a jerk
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 10:47 am
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With the current promotion and all those brand stays required, I've never run across this situation anywhere yet. Just out of curiosity, at what point is this guarantee invoked to receive the fistful of banknotes?
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