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Zepcro Aug 7, 2023 9:29 am


Originally Posted by pixelrogue (Post 35477288)
Respectfully - this is part of the game. Anyone who doesn't test, and/or gets embarrassed by a denial, might not be ready.

Did you read my subsequent comments? I "misspoke" when I wrote that. I ended up trying myself and it worked. I have had situations where my cards did not work for various reasons and I was "cool as a cucumber".

TucsonJohn Aug 14, 2023 3:15 pm


Originally Posted by pixelrogue (Post 35477305)
Simon <bhn>VGC as well ?
I'm now getting a single $450 swipe on Simon's 1ks denied just about everywhere...registered or not registered same result.

I’ve done several single $470 swipes over the last couple of days with Simon vgc at my local grocer in Tucson. Have had no issues here.

skiwindham Aug 16, 2023 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by Seat2D (Post 35364065)
Velocity issue from a previous customer?

Last month had no problem liquidating BHN cards for $479 MO at any WD here in SW Florida. Today it failed. Even tried $449 at different WD's. Hmm...has the BHN limit been reduced AGAIN?

skiwindham Aug 16, 2023 9:47 pm

Aldi's, which doesn't sell money orders, today announced it's buying Winn Dixie (which had been a good outlet for gc liquidation). Guess that jeopardizes future MO buys at WD.

soy Aug 17, 2023 6:45 am


Originally Posted by skiwindham (Post 35504176)
Aldi's, which doesn't sell money orders, today announced it's buying Winn Dixie (which had been a good outlet for gc liquidation). Guess that jeopardizes future MO buys at WD.

I doubt it has a big impact. While they said they will convert some locations to the ALDI model, most will continue to operate as WD (aka traditional supermarkets)

theroz Aug 17, 2023 1:26 pm


Originally Posted by skiwindham (Post 35503547)
Last month had no problem liquidating BHN cards for $479 MO at any WD here in SW Florida. Today it failed. Even tried $449 at different WD's. Hmm...has the BHN limit been reduced AGAIN?

DH was able to get 479+, he got 2 at 1 store and decided to press his luck with another store(same chain) and he got a 3rd one for 479, so its probably either WD or the area you're in. There arent any WDs in our neck of the woods

MaxVO Aug 17, 2023 4:06 pm


Originally Posted by theroz (Post 35506053)
... in our neck of the woods

Approximately where would that be? I agree that location may be a major factor in deciding what to do with this DP.

theroz Aug 18, 2023 10:30 am


Originally Posted by MaxVO (Post 35506519)
Approximately where would that be? I agree that location may be a major factor in deciding what to do with this DP.

well its sort of moot now, the reg location was BAU, the other store he got 1 at yesterday, had the same person working CS but just as it was printing he said the mgr came down (office is upstairs) and he recognized her from the last time he was denied , so Eyes in Sky are viewed, and she asked for the card which he gave her and she showed the cashier what NOT to accept and then processed a full refund of the 480.

Had nothing to do with BHX or anyone except the mgr, so now back to 1 location, not good for ramping up. Might go back out of State to the old 200s route but do 1 card per store per day and stay overnight to get 10K done @ 479s

danhouston Aug 18, 2023 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by theroz (Post 35508420)
well its sort of moot now, the reg location was BAU, the other store he got 1 at yesterday, had the same person working CS but just as it was printing he said the mgr came down (office is upstairs) and he recognized her from the last time he was denied , so Eyes in Sky are viewed, and she asked for the card which he gave her and she showed the cashier what NOT to accept and then processed a full refund of the 480.

Had nothing to do with BHX or anyone except the mgr, so now back to 1 location, not good for ramping up. Might go back out of State to the old 200s route but do 1 card per store per day and stay overnight to get 10K done @ 479s

guess that he didn't want to take risks showing the bank DC to the Mgr

radonc1 Aug 18, 2023 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by danhouston (Post 35508954)
guess that he didn't want to take risks showing the bank DC to the Mgr

Might have been foolish especially since the manager made a special trip down from the office just to check the buyer's debit card out ;)

theroz Aug 20, 2023 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by radonc1 (Post 35509017)
Might have been foolish especially since the manager made a special trip down from the office just to check the buyer's debit card out ;)


DH here, 100%. She got there as it was printing out. A year+ ago she got there before it printed and before I was able to swipe.

Once I saw her I knew even thou it was printing maybe I had a 2% (if that) chance of walking out with it. Once it printed she had it in her hand, I quickly realized once she asked for the card that she knew I swiped and didnt input it(reg bank chip card) so the last thing I wanted was her to call the other stores and have them on the lookout for me. Since it printed if she wasnt gonna give the MO to me then I wanted a full refund, so basically she was holding all the cards.

When they have you it doesnt make any sense IMO to go against them.

FWIW I went to the reg store Ive been going to and got 2 MOs this morn, so for sure she didnt alert the other stores and for that alone it was worth going along with her. Remember its not illegal only against WUs T&Cs and would have hated to burn the only close by store thats working

Whittaker Aug 20, 2023 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by theroz (Post 35513473)
...so the last thing I wanted was her to call the other stores and have them on the lookout for me.

Geez. Fascist little buggers, eh?

theroz Aug 20, 2023 2:05 pm


Originally Posted by Whittaker (Post 35513722)
Geez. Fascist little buggers, eh?


DH again, no whats funny is they tell the employees not to Stop the shoplifters or engage them in any way, here we arent causing the store/company any loss if anything they keep the fee, they go full alert against us. It is what it is and we simply have to learn to adapt. All we want is to exhaust the 50K we can with 5x on our Ink, or for a new SUB. I can live with the 479s as long as my 1 location doesnt catch onto me, so its slowly and surely rather then dump and burn

Zepcro Aug 21, 2023 1:13 pm


Originally Posted by theroz (Post 35513747)
DH again, no whats funny is they tell the employees not to Stop the shoplifters or engage them in any way, here we arent causing the store/company any loss if anything they keep the fee, they go full alert against us. It is what it is and we simply have to learn to adapt. All we want is to exhaust the 50K we can with 5x on our Ink, or for a new SUB. I can live with the 479s as long as my 1 location doesnt catch onto me, so its slowly and surely rather then dump and burn

What does DH stand for in this context?

pixelrogue Aug 21, 2023 2:27 pm

DP: Simon cards - can only ever liquidate ONE card at the store at a time - that's it, for BHN cards. Waiting 10 minutes, still can not get a second MO. That experience is the same if using a single high Simon's VGC w/lower MOs, or using different VGC if they are BHNs.


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