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MaxVO Apr 27, 2023 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by soy (Post 35207538)
To keep it simple, just do 1 swipe for 475, (nice round number) and spend the 25 balance organically, There is a velocity limit so do not line up behind another MS'er. The limits are hardcoded so same at all grocery IME (except for WM and Safeway which have the 99 limit)

Thanks, it's probably the best idea. But before I got to read the updated thread, I ended up converting the BHN card to SS-VGC at a WM. The terminal defaulted to the Credit mode (unlike the grocery stores always ran as Debit), accepted the whole amount ~$460, and I didn't have deal with that BHN anymore. I think it was worth the $5 fee.

patrickfungusa52 May 1, 2023 7:59 pm

I went to a grocery store with the name starting with the letter M and used a USB VGC and a BHN VGC to get 2 money orders. I wanted to test out whether the MO ban at Safeway is a WU issue. Everything went smoothly. I got a $500 MO and another one for $473.

mueagles May 16, 2023 1:17 pm

I had a curious situation occur to me over the weekend. I've been at this a long time but this one has me stumped. Wonder if there are any ideas on what's happening...

I had a set of BHN VGCs and was in the process of liquidating via the normal $480 MO route. I almost always use the M grocer to do the MOs, but in this case I stopped by a different grocery store. Here's what transpired:

1. Card #1 not approved at K for $479.xx. Left the store.
2. Went to M and Card #1 was again not approved for $479.xx. I told the service agent I'd try another card. Tried the exact same BHN-type Card #2 for the same amount and was successful.
3. Waited a day and tried Card #1 again at K for a MO and was again not approved.
4. Made some small purchases with Card #1 and was successful.

I just called BHN thinking maybe there was a fraud alert on Card #1 that needed to get cleared. The rep told me it was declined because it was attempted to be used as a "cash out" transaction...for example if I was trying to do a cash advance or buy a money order. Why in the world is that being detected in this one case? Anyone else experience something similar? For the life of me I can't figure out what's special about this particular card. I may just buy a USB VGC, eat the fee and be done with it, but I hate that I don't know what caused the failure.

danpeake May 16, 2023 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by mueagles (Post 35254926)
I had a curious situation occur to me over the weekend. I've been at this a long time but this one has me stumped. Wonder if there are any ideas on what's happening...

I had a set of BHN VGCs and was in the process of liquidating via the normal $480 MO route. I almost always use the M grocer to do the MOs, but in this case I stopped by a different grocery store. Here's what transpired:

1. Card #1 not approved at K for $479.xx. Left the store.
2. Went to M and Card #1 was again not approved for $479.xx. I told the service agent I'd try another card. Tried the exact same BHN-type Card #2 for the same amount and was successful.
3. Waited a day and tried Card #1 again at K for a MO and was again not approved.
4. Made some small purchases with Card #1 and was successful.

I just called BHN thinking maybe there was a fraud alert on Card #1 that needed to get cleared. The rep told me it was declined because it was attempted to be used as a "cash out" transaction...for example if I was trying to do a cash advance or buy a money order. Why in the world is that being detected in this one case? Anyone else experience something similar? For the life of me I can't figure out what's special about this particular card. I may just buy a USB VGC, eat the fee and be done with it, but I hate that I don't know what caused the failure.

I had something similar happen but I don't remember the card issuer. I just used it to buy a SS card and moved on.

patrickfungusa52 May 16, 2023 8:14 pm

Metabank GC serviced by BHN stopped working at K long ago. Only USB GC works.

andyandy May 24, 2023 12:41 pm

Well, a new velocity limit seems to have dropped at W-D. Tried $475 with a BHN card and got the dreaded "not authorized." Coupled with the new $6.95 fee on BHN cards, I'd say these are pretty much dead.

Andyandy

andyandy May 31, 2023 4:03 pm

Disregard. Seems to have been cashier error. W-D still working at $475.

kpe Jun 4, 2023 7:51 pm


Originally Posted by bdwyfan (Post 35046288)
I am happy to report that $500 SS (issued by Meta, serviced by InComm) worked at my local WM (not a supercenter).
$499 + $1 fee

How soon after purchase can you use them? Do you need to register or set pin? Or use any pin at the time of MO (first) purchase? I assume they would work for AmBB loading as well?

TTT103 Jun 5, 2023 11:10 am


Originally Posted by kpe (Post 35304161)
How soon after purchase can you use them? Do you need to register or set pin? Or use any pin at the time of MO (first) purchase? I assume they would work for AmBB loading as well?

One hour

kpe Jun 5, 2023 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by TTT103 (Post 35305975)
One hour

Thanks. I read somewhere that don't check balance or set new pin etc..otherwise fraud lock kicks in. Is that correct? Thanks

Idk Jun 5, 2023 1:26 pm


Originally Posted by kpe (Post 35306268)
Thanks. I read somewhere that don't check balance or set new pin etc..otherwise fraud lock kicks in. Is that correct? Thanks

That has been my experience. Since I stopped checking the balance and setting pin online I have had zero problems liquidating.

ra7 Jun 6, 2023 4:40 pm

I bought couple of metabank incomm SS VGC 2 days back. They worked fine for MO without any issues so far. Today at Kroger I got not authorized message and at Walmart I got debit transaction not allowed. I called customer service and was told that this is a new error message they are seeing at their end and asked me to try again after 48 business hours

bdwyfan Jun 7, 2023 4:12 pm


Originally Posted by kpe (Post 35306268)
Thanks. I read somewhere that don't check balance or set new pin etc..otherwise fraud lock kicks in. Is that correct? Thanks

I never got the fraud alert even after checking the balance or setting a new pin.
I did it with a phone call though.

Anyway, I got lazy and using the last 4 numbers as the PIN has worked flawlessly.

kpe Jun 8, 2023 10:18 pm


Originally Posted by bdwyfan (Post 35312803)
I never got the fraud alert even after checking the balance or setting a new pin.
I did it with a phone call though.

Anyway, I got lazy and using the last 4 numbers as the PIN has worked flawlessly.

I used the last 4 digits as the pin and it worked for full $500 per swipe for AmBB loading. SSVGC (MB, InComm) worked just fine for full 0.5K / swipe for loading AmBB. BiN 409758. Used last 4 of the card as PIN. No checking balance or setting PIN to avoid possible fraud lock. Did 2 back to back transactions in the garden section of Wally. No errors. Thanks

Seat2D Jun 19, 2023 6:46 am


Originally Posted by ra7 (Post 35309938)
I bought couple of metabank incomm SS VGC 2 days back. They worked fine for MO without any issues so far. Today at Kroger I got not authorized message and at Walmart I got debit transaction not allowed. I called customer service and was told that this is a new error message they are seeing at their end and asked me to try again after 48 business hours

Is this truly a new problem? I thought everything serviced by Incomm was still OK. I thought the "not authorized" problem was limited to Blackhawk.


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