Jan 2, 2017, 9:18 pm
Last edit by: Travelz
This is a new thread for 2017. The previous discussion can be found here.
READ the posts in this thread before asking questions. Many have already been answered.
10k per day limit including fees - must fill out a form (use cards as a budget tool or whatever you want to put)
Check the Simon website for locations.
VGC issued by meta for 3.95 - Count your cards before you leave the mall
When ordering online, Simon uses GCM.
READ the posts in this thread before asking questions. Many have already been answered.
10k per day limit including fees - must fill out a form (use cards as a budget tool or whatever you want to put)
Check the Simon website for locations.
VGC issued by meta for 3.95 - Count your cards before you leave the mall
When ordering online, Simon uses GCM.
Simon Mall Gift Cards(2017-2018)
Jan 22, 2018, 5:34 am
#541
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: DUB-BOS
Programs: various
Posts: 3,693
Anyone else run into an issue recently where they've started insisting on giving you the little paper card holders? The head cashier person at my Simon (Fashion Center in Arlington, VA) was recently replaced and the new one has been making everyone hand them out and are quite insistent that I take them with me even though I just throw them away immediately. She is convinced that "it's a legal requirement" and by the book Simon mall corporate policy that they have to make you take them. I am highly skeptical of the first claim and only slightly less so of the second.
Jan 22, 2018, 6:41 am
#542
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,447
So if you buy 5 cards, there needs to be a separate legal documents supplied for each card. The mall (seller) satisfies that condition by supplying a card jacket filled with the document for each card sold. So I suspect that there was some truth to the clerk's claim that there was a legal requirement for supplying these jackets to the buyer.
BTW, they have always insisted on doing so with me and sometimes they even go so far as to put each card in its jacket..
Jan 22, 2018, 8:38 am
#543
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,322
Also maybe remember that the trees this paper is made from were planted specifically to make paper .. not talking about old growth forest.
Jan 22, 2018, 10:09 am
#544
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
Some cashiers are much more stickler while others are more relaxed. We got down to the compromise with one cashier who now gives us only one packet for however many cards we bought. It used to be one card per packet and needed to be put in! Now she just wrote the per card amount on the packet and one packet only. The other cashier used common sense and just rubberbanded the cards.
Jan 24, 2018, 5:19 pm
#545
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 161
Not sure if this has been posted here but:
Last year in December my wife's Delta MQD waiver balance was showing a huge discrepancy from my actual spend. I ended up figuring out that Simon Mall Purchases weren't counting towards it, similar to AMEX signup bonuses. I had enough non-Simon purchases to clear it and they posted before I had a chance to test if Simon was posting late or not at all.
<fast forward to 2018>
I made 1 Simon Mall purchase on my card and the first week of January and then sock-drawered my card to test it out.
As of today, 3 weeks after my purchase and 2 weeks after my statement closed, my 2018 MQD waiver is still showing I've spent $0.
My MilesBoost threshold bonus status on my statement however, does count the spend.
So what I've learned is 2 things:
A. It is extremely likely that Simon Mall no longer counts towards the Delta MQD Waiver.
B. The Delta MQD Waiver appears to be a litmus test for what will count towards AMEX signup bonuses, as they appear to follow the same rules.
On the off chance that something is simply off with my account, I made >$1000 in purchases in the past few days, if those end up triggering my status to update to "$3-4k" (unlikely), I will update this post.
Last year in December my wife's Delta MQD waiver balance was showing a huge discrepancy from my actual spend. I ended up figuring out that Simon Mall Purchases weren't counting towards it, similar to AMEX signup bonuses. I had enough non-Simon purchases to clear it and they posted before I had a chance to test if Simon was posting late or not at all.
<fast forward to 2018>
I made 1 Simon Mall purchase on my card and the first week of January and then sock-drawered my card to test it out.
As of today, 3 weeks after my purchase and 2 weeks after my statement closed, my 2018 MQD waiver is still showing I've spent $0.
My MilesBoost threshold bonus status on my statement however, does count the spend.
So what I've learned is 2 things:
A. It is extremely likely that Simon Mall no longer counts towards the Delta MQD Waiver.
B. The Delta MQD Waiver appears to be a litmus test for what will count towards AMEX signup bonuses, as they appear to follow the same rules.
On the off chance that something is simply off with my account, I made >$1000 in purchases in the past few days, if those end up triggering my status to update to "$3-4k" (unlikely), I will update this post.
Jan 24, 2018, 11:29 pm
#546
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Bend, OR
Programs: Delta Diamond Medallion & Million Miler, Hyatt Globalist, HHonors Diamond, Hertz President's Club
Posts: 121
Not sure if this has been posted here but:
Last year in December my wife's Delta MQD waiver balance was showing a huge discrepancy from my actual spend. I ended up figuring out that Simon Mall Purchases weren't counting towards it, similar to AMEX signup bonuses. I had enough non-Simon purchases to clear it and they posted before I had a chance to test if Simon was posting late or not at all.
<fast forward to 2018>
I made 1 Simon Mall purchase on my card and the first week of January and then sock-drawered my card to test it out.
As of today, 3 weeks after my purchase and 2 weeks after my statement closed, my 2018 MQD waiver is still showing I've spent $0.
My MilesBoost threshold bonus status on my statement however, does count the spend.
So what I've learned is 2 things:
A. It is extremely likely that Simon Mall no longer counts towards the Delta MQD Waiver.
B. The Delta MQD Waiver appears to be a litmus test for what will count towards AMEX signup bonuses, as they appear to follow the same rules.
On the off chance that something is simply off with my account, I made >$1000 in purchases in the past few days, if those end up triggering my status to update to "$3-4k" (unlikely), I will update this post.
Last year in December my wife's Delta MQD waiver balance was showing a huge discrepancy from my actual spend. I ended up figuring out that Simon Mall Purchases weren't counting towards it, similar to AMEX signup bonuses. I had enough non-Simon purchases to clear it and they posted before I had a chance to test if Simon was posting late or not at all.
<fast forward to 2018>
I made 1 Simon Mall purchase on my card and the first week of January and then sock-drawered my card to test it out.
As of today, 3 weeks after my purchase and 2 weeks after my statement closed, my 2018 MQD waiver is still showing I've spent $0.
My MilesBoost threshold bonus status on my statement however, does count the spend.
So what I've learned is 2 things:
A. It is extremely likely that Simon Mall no longer counts towards the Delta MQD Waiver.
B. The Delta MQD Waiver appears to be a litmus test for what will count towards AMEX signup bonuses, as they appear to follow the same rules.
On the off chance that something is simply off with my account, I made >$1000 in purchases in the past few days, if those end up triggering my status to update to "$3-4k" (unlikely), I will update this post.
Jan 24, 2018, 11:35 pm
#547
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: IAH
Programs: DL DM, Hyatt Ist-iest, Stariott Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 12,795
Yes. It depends on the instruction from the manager of the mall, especially if a new one comes on board. It is because the disclosure is stuck inside the packet. By law each card sold needs to have legal disclosure leaflet.
Some cashiers are much more stickler while others are more relaxed. We got down to the compromise with one cashier who now gives us only one packet for however many cards we bought. It used to be one card per packet and needed to be put in! Now she just wrote the per card amount on the packet and one packet only. The other cashier used common sense and just rubberbanded the cards.
Some cashiers are much more stickler while others are more relaxed. We got down to the compromise with one cashier who now gives us only one packet for however many cards we bought. It used to be one card per packet and needed to be put in! Now she just wrote the per card amount on the packet and one packet only. The other cashier used common sense and just rubberbanded the cards.
Jan 24, 2018, 11:36 pm
#548
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Atlanta, GA
Programs: AA PLT, AS 75K, DL DM, HY Globalist, HH Diamond, MC/RZ/SW Platinum, AB/UA Silver, WN CP
Posts: 1,122
Not sure if this has been posted here but:
Last year in December my wife's Delta MQD waiver balance was showing a huge discrepancy from my actual spend. I ended up figuring out that Simon Mall Purchases weren't counting towards it, similar to AMEX signup bonuses. I had enough non-Simon purchases to clear it and they posted before I had a chance to test if Simon was posting late or not at all.
<fast forward to 2018>
I made 1 Simon Mall purchase on my card and the first week of January and then sock-drawered my card to test it out.
As of today, 3 weeks after my purchase and 2 weeks after my statement closed, my 2018 MQD waiver is still showing I've spent $0.
My MilesBoost threshold bonus status on my statement however, does count the spend.
So what I've learned is 2 things:
A. It is extremely likely that Simon Mall no longer counts towards the Delta MQD Waiver.
B. The Delta MQD Waiver appears to be a litmus test for what will count towards AMEX signup bonuses, as they appear to follow the same rules.
On the off chance that something is simply off with my account, I made >$1000 in purchases in the past few days, if those end up triggering my status to update to "$3-4k" (unlikely), I will update this post.
Last year in December my wife's Delta MQD waiver balance was showing a huge discrepancy from my actual spend. I ended up figuring out that Simon Mall Purchases weren't counting towards it, similar to AMEX signup bonuses. I had enough non-Simon purchases to clear it and they posted before I had a chance to test if Simon was posting late or not at all.
<fast forward to 2018>
I made 1 Simon Mall purchase on my card and the first week of January and then sock-drawered my card to test it out.
As of today, 3 weeks after my purchase and 2 weeks after my statement closed, my 2018 MQD waiver is still showing I've spent $0.
My MilesBoost threshold bonus status on my statement however, does count the spend.
So what I've learned is 2 things:
A. It is extremely likely that Simon Mall no longer counts towards the Delta MQD Waiver.
B. The Delta MQD Waiver appears to be a litmus test for what will count towards AMEX signup bonuses, as they appear to follow the same rules.
On the off chance that something is simply off with my account, I made >$1000 in purchases in the past few days, if those end up triggering my status to update to "$3-4k" (unlikely), I will update this post.
Jan 25, 2018, 6:50 am
#549
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 161
That would be fantastic if true, however my DP from my wife's account still applies. I guess I'll know for sure when my normal purchases update.
Jan 25, 2018, 9:39 am
#550
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,447
I always walk out with sleeves. Most of the times, they are cardless, but the last time I bought, each sleeve was filled with a card.
Jan 25, 2018, 5:22 pm
#551
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
One's experience is completely independent from the other person's experience. Even different malls in the same city would have different policy, and more often than not, different cashier at the same mall has different practice. I can tell you that at our mall we can just phone in the orders and go pick them up but one cashier still insists to give us one packet with the per card value written on it. On top of that she would fill out some areas of the form, then marked the areas to be filled out by us. Never fail despite she has been there the last 2 years. It has NOTHING to do with whether she knows us or not. Of course she knows us, but she wants to stick with what she is told what to do from the day she started working there. At least now she does not do one card per packet. lol, Oh yeah, she calls people like us :"gamers" so it is not like she does not recognize the game.
Oh, she is also the one who would NOT take a "chip malfunction" card the second time. But our other cashier would not only try again (often work) but also take an actual declined card after the card was cleared. Thar my friend, is technically against the mall's policy, but the other cashier would do it. Same mall, 2 cashiers, one is a stickler and the other is not. What can I say?
Therefore, discussion on how one's mall handles things is of very little value as it is highly localized and 100% YMMV.
My take? Just accept how each cashier would like to do her own thing.
Jan 25, 2018, 5:30 pm
#552
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
Not sure if this has been posted here but:
Last year in December my wife's Delta MQD waiver balance was showing a huge discrepancy from my actual spend. I ended up figuring out that Simon Mall Purchases weren't counting towards it, similar to AMEX signup bonuses. I had enough non-Simon purchases to clear it and they posted before I had a chance to test if Simon was posting late or not at all.
<fast forward to 2018>
I made 1 Simon Mall purchase on my card and the first week of January and then sock-drawered my card to test it out.
As of today, 3 weeks after my purchase and 2 weeks after my statement closed, my 2018 MQD waiver is still showing I've spent $0.
My MilesBoost threshold bonus status on my statement however, does count the spend.
So what I've learned is 2 things:
A. It is extremely likely that Simon Mall no longer counts towards the Delta MQD Waiver.
B. The Delta MQD Waiver appears to be a litmus test for what will count towards AMEX signup bonuses, as they appear to follow the same rules.
On the off chance that something is simply off with my account, I made >$1000 in purchases in the past few days, if those end up triggering my status to update to "$3-4k" (unlikely), I will update this post.
Last year in December my wife's Delta MQD waiver balance was showing a huge discrepancy from my actual spend. I ended up figuring out that Simon Mall Purchases weren't counting towards it, similar to AMEX signup bonuses. I had enough non-Simon purchases to clear it and they posted before I had a chance to test if Simon was posting late or not at all.
<fast forward to 2018>
I made 1 Simon Mall purchase on my card and the first week of January and then sock-drawered my card to test it out.
As of today, 3 weeks after my purchase and 2 weeks after my statement closed, my 2018 MQD waiver is still showing I've spent $0.
My MilesBoost threshold bonus status on my statement however, does count the spend.
So what I've learned is 2 things:
A. It is extremely likely that Simon Mall no longer counts towards the Delta MQD Waiver.
B. The Delta MQD Waiver appears to be a litmus test for what will count towards AMEX signup bonuses, as they appear to follow the same rules.
On the off chance that something is simply off with my account, I made >$1000 in purchases in the past few days, if those end up triggering my status to update to "$3-4k" (unlikely), I will update this post.
Jan 26, 2018, 9:07 am
#553
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 161
My hunch is, SM does not count towards ANY bonus type, but continues to earn regular spending pts/miles. MQD may be classified by AMEX as some form of bonus (qualifying for elites) but for $1 per mile earning, it still counts. The reason I make this assumption is, on the SPG, it would not earn any targeted bonus offer such as statement credit after crossing some monthly spending threshold, but it continues earning the 1x SPG pt. It has absolutely nothing to do with Level 3 data as some bloggers clueless speculated - because spend at OD and at BBY during promotions that offset the fees, earn bonus despite Level 3 data. So I would speculate that it is the BIN of SMGC that is used to identify the transaction by the system, to exclude from bonus earning.
Last edited by shipitkthx; Jan 26, 2018 at 9:18 am
Jan 26, 2018, 12:11 pm
#554
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 245
When the card was declined, how should the screen look like?
Had similar experience at a Publix last week. The first transaction went thru with split payments albeit each payment took forever to go thru. The second transaction it went all the way to No Cash Back. Then instead of Processing, the screen reverted back to the original screen before card swipe. I blurted out "What happened?" Cashier did not say card declined. She took a look and told me to do it again. Tried again, same thing happened. She asked, "Was it the same card?" Tried a different card, same thing happened. I could not determine whether it was a communication error (the first transaction took exceptionally long time to clear each card, 3 were used), or the cashier deliberately canceled the 2nd transaction. I ruled out cashier error as it was single card. The 2 cards worked just fine 30 min later at a different Publix.
Had similar experience at a Publix last week. The first transaction went thru with split payments albeit each payment took forever to go thru. The second transaction it went all the way to No Cash Back. Then instead of Processing, the screen reverted back to the original screen before card swipe. I blurted out "What happened?" Cashier did not say card declined. She took a look and told me to do it again. Tried again, same thing happened. She asked, "Was it the same card?" Tried a different card, same thing happened. I could not determine whether it was a communication error (the first transaction took exceptionally long time to clear each card, 3 were used), or the cashier deliberately canceled the 2nd transaction. I ruled out cashier error as it was single card. The 2 cards worked just fine 30 min later at a different Publix.
Jan 26, 2018, 1:35 pm
#555
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,688
That is likely what it is. I'm wary of one cashier at WM who does this all the time when I pay the fee in cash. While most would input the fee paid leaving the balance $1000 before I start swiping my DCs, I tell cashier to input $500 on my debit and he'd say yes but right after, a small slip of paper with error 51 comes up which means there is not enough funds on the DC. I dismissed it initially but have since realized he is deliberately sabotaging the transaction since he did it again another time. When it's just him at the register, I just pay my WM CC with $500, no fee and all is taken out of one DC.