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Old Jan 10, 2015, 9:20 pm
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Nov 24, 2015

Dear XXXXXXXXX,

We want to let you know that we are making a change to your Target Prepaid REDcard® by American Express, and you will no longer be able to add money from your debit card at Target stores. As always, you can continue to add money to your Prepaid REDcard by using:

• Your debit card online through your Account
• Cash at a Target Store
• Direct Deposit (You can automatically add all or part of your paycheck, government benefits and federal tax refunds to your Prepaid REDcard)


DEAD FOR DEBIT CARD LOADS EFFECTIVE 10/12/2015 - MEMO: http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.co...uests-can-use/


DEAD FOR CREDIT CARD LOADS. (Amex GCs Included)

Effective May 6, 2015 registers are hard-coded to not allow credit card reload. PIN-based debit cards are working, however YMMV. PIN-based debit cards may be refused by cashiers.


WHAT IS TARGET PREPAID REDCARD?
Prepaid Redcard is a reloadable American Express card. It is only available to purchase at select Target stores.

    WEBSITE:
    This site may error when in Firefox, especially with adding payees / bill pay. Customer service says to use Chrome or Internet Explorer.
    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    PREPAID REDCARD LOAD LIMITS
    Cash (or debit card) loading at Target: ** - $1,000/transaction, $2,500/day and $5,000/month
    Online Debit Card Load * - $200/day and $1,000/month
    Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
    Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
    ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month



    All "Monthly" limits are per calendar month and reset on the 1st of each month.
    Daily limits reset at midnight Eastern time, 9 PM Pacific time.

    *For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt.

    ATM Withdrawals:
    No-fee ATM usage at US Target stores* and U.S. Allpoint network ATMs. (ATM usage not available at any other ATMs.) Find an Allpoint ATM at: www.allpointnetwork.com Note that some ATMs only allow $400/transaction. There is a $750/day and $2,000/month limit to ATM withdrawals.

    RedCard is only available in specific Target stores and is not available in all states. Go to this site to find a list of available locations:https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
    Q: Can I reload a RB at a Target that doesn't sell RB?
    Yes. However, the cashier may not know how to do it. You may be able to coach them through it by saying "It's like reloading a Starbucks (or Gift) card". For step-by-step instructions on one method of 'coaching' new cashiers see Post#1904

    Q: Can I buy or reload a RB in North Carolina?
    See post here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...a-63.html#2520
    There is currently a software issue preventing any reload of any kind in NC. It is a known issue but there is no ETA on a fix.

    Q: Can I reload the RB at any register, or just at the Customer Service desk?
    It can be done at any register, however some cashiers are not trained on how to do this and you may have to go to Customer Service.

    Q: What is the most efficient way to drain a RedCard?
    Use BillPay to pay bills. For example, pay the credit card you used to load RedCard with. You can also withdraw money at ATMs.

    Q: I cant access the BillPay feature through the RB website!
    Verify that your account information correctly reflects a 10-digit phone number (including area code). Numerous people have reported that their account only had a 7-digit phone number (no area code) and that, after updating to a 10-digit phone number, BillPay miraculously started working.

    Q: Can we buy a temporary Redbird card while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    Yes.

    Q: How many Redbird cards can you purchase at once?
    You can only purchase one Redbird card a day per SSN. If you plan to purchase more than one, be sure to use a different SSN for each purchase to avoid activation issues.

    Q: Can we register our temporary Redbird online while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    No. You will have to cancel your Bluebird or Serve account first before registering.

    Q: How do I cancel my BlueBird or Serve Account online? Do I need to call them?
    Frequent Miler posted a useful trick that will help you cancel online How to cancel Bluebird online This works for both BlueBird and Serve.

    Q: Cancelled Bluebird, why does registering Redbird error out saying Bluebird is still active?
    If you have open transactions that have not been settled, like BillPay checks that have not yet been cashed, the account cannot settle and will not be truly closed. Thus Target will reject it until it's permanently closed.

    Q: Can we get Redbird online?
    No. The only way to get Redbird is to find a participating Target store and buy a temporary card there. Some people have purchased RB on Ebay, Amazon, or through private deals. Be aware that doing so may violate the TOS of one or more of these services. Also be aware that buying an un-activated RB, you are potentially buying "stolen" merchandise; the seller *may* have simply taken the un-activated RB cards from a target store without permission. At best they got permission from a low-level employee; they certainly are not getting permission from someone authorized to allow sale of RB outside of the current Target-authorized roll out markets. It is highly recommended to only buy already activated Redbirds because many Targets which do not offer Redbirds also will not be able to activate them and you will spend a month with the Customer Service line trying to get a new one.

    Q: Does the initial load you put in when purchasing the Redbird count against the monthly limit?
    No. After registering the Redbird online, any loads done will count against your monthly limit, even on your temp card.

    Q: Can we load Redbird with Target gift cards at Target?NO.
    When loading, the register displays a large message saying that gift cards cannot be used to pay for this transaction.

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    [B]As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per debit card payment. End of story.

    Q: What credit cards can I use to reload RedCard in Target stores?
    NONE. As of May 6, 2015, credit cards cannot be used to reload.

    Q: Can I reload with a debit card?
    Yes, but only if the debit card can be authenticated with PIN-number. Signature-based debit that processes on the Visa/MasterCard/AmEx networks will NOT work.

    Q: Can I reload with a prepaid debit card or Vanilla Visa?
    Yes, but only if you have a PIN for that card.

    Q: How can I load 2 debit cards in one transaction? Example 2x$500.
    1. Swipe debit card on my terminal after total comes up $1000.
    2. PIN pad comes up. Enter 4 digit PIN.
    3. Do you want cash back? press NO
    4. Do you want full amount on this card? press NO <<<Note: I pressed YES and did not have a step 5. - PHLisa
    5. Cashier reads something on register, asks how much on this card. $500. They push something to continue.
    6. Swipe card #2. Enter PIN
    7. Repeat 3 to 5. Total: 0.00
    8. Receipt prints. Thank cashier. The end.
    (thanks to Mamibear)

    Q: Can someone else buy a Redbird card for you?
    Yes. When you buy a temp Redbird card at Target, you have to give them your drivers license info, your SSN (can be any set of numbers, does not need to be real), birthdate, and more. Then, you have to register the card online in order to get a permanent card. In the process of registering online, they ask for the birthday of the original buyer on the first screen, but you can put your own and it will still work. Either way, you can still change the details on the following screens. I did this for my wife. I bought the card at Target and used my own driver’s license, SSN, etc. But, when I got home, I registered the card to my wife. I can’t promise this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.

    Q: Can you reload Serve/Bluebird at Target?
    No.

    Q: How do I contact Target's support team to resolve an issue with my RedCard?
    Call Target's Prepaid Resolution Team, their direct telephone number is 800 438 6468 (open from 8AM to 430PM MST).

    Q: Can you have both Redbird and AFT cards?
    Yes.
    You can have both Redbird and AFT since they are independent products.

    Q: I got a "Pending" notice that the registration is being reviewed, what now?
    Add [email protected] to your address book, and check your spam folder for an email about it. You can also call in. They will need images or faxes of:
    • Social Security Documentation (must clearly show full 9 digit Social Security Number). Choose 1 of the following options:
    ◦ Social Security Card, OR
    ◦ A Medicare insurance card
    Plus...
    • Picture ID
    ◦ A valid driver's license card OR
    ◦ A valid state issued ID OR
    ◦ A valid United States Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card) OR
    ◦ A valid United States Passport (photo page only)


    Secure Document Upload
    Here's the link to upload secure documents to REDcard: https://secure.prepaidredcard.com/User/SecureFileUpload
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 11:16 am
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    Originally Posted by Travel4Points
    [I]U.S. REDcard penetration was 21% in the third quarter, up about 110 basis points from last year, driven by growth in both credit and debit penetration. As we described last quarter, applications for new REDcard debit cards are running below last year, causing penetration growth to decelerate from last year's pace. We believe this trend will continue in the fourth quarter, when we expect U.S. REDcard penetration will be flat or up slightly compared with last year.
    "penetration was 21%"
    penetration of what in what?

    "110 basis points"
    what base and points?
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 11:17 am
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 11:20 am
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    I did 2x multiple swipe loads earlier this week where the last $1000 swipe failed to be credited to my REDcard balance - turns out I would've exceeded my daily limit by $1 so the last load of the transaction simply failed. The related cards are definitely drained. So I'm out $2000

    Anyone have advice on how to get my $2000 back?

    From the wiki: "Update: As of 12/26, some people have reported issues with not receiving full credit for multiple RB reloads in a single CC transaction as specified in the previous update. Always check your receipt to verify that it accurately shows your RedBird "New Balance" increasing with each successive load. This seems to be associated with loading above the daily limit of a temp or perm card (there is no error indicating this or any message at all) Correcting the problem *may* be possible if caught immediately. Otherwise, your only option may be to dispute the transaction with your CC issuer."
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 11:24 am
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    Just got done wasting a trip to Menifee target. Girl there said they pulled them all on the first of the year and it was just a trial program.
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 11:25 am
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    Anybody know any other locations in SoCal to get a bird?
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 11:26 am
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    Originally Posted by prasha11
    "penetration was 21%"
    penetration of what in what?

    "110 basis points"
    what base and points?
    I am dying to see the "penetration" announced in Feb!!! (So keep using your Redbird for Target purchases to ensure their numbers keep going up and this card has a long shelf life)
    From their 10Q:

    We monitor the percentage of sales that are paid for using REDcards (REDcard Penetration) because our internal analysis has indicated that a meaningful portion of the incremental purchases on REDcards are also incremental sales for Target, with the remainder representing a shift in tender type.

    Last edited by Travel4Points; Jan 20, 2015 at 11:42 am
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 11:40 am
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    Originally Posted by Travel4Points
    It may be useful to follow Target's investor calls to gain insight into the future of this card and how it will fit in with the others they have. The next earnings call is not until Feb 25. But from this excerpt from the last call, I would infer that Target is trying to get all REDcard apps up, including the debit........So keep those apps up in 2015 so they can tell their investors how great they are doing!!
    The Debit REDcard is not our beloved Redbird, it's a completely separate product (I guess it draws on your existing checking account). Redbird would be referred to as the "prepaid" version of REDcard.
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 11:41 am
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    Originally Posted by aarif1
    The Debit REDcard is not our beloved Redbird, it's a completely separate product (I guess it draws on your existing checking account). Redbird would be referred to as the "prepaid" version of REDcard.
    Still could be included in the figures since it is a version of a RedCard and you can use it to pay for purchases. It will be interesting to see if they include it separately in the Q4 or Q1 10Q and/or if there is a dramatic uptick in "penetration."
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 11:49 am
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    I am trying to get my family to sign up for these cards but they are hesitant when they find out that its needs a SSN. Is there anything I can say that will put their mind at ease?
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 11:53 am
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    Originally Posted by Travel4Points
    Still could be included in the figures since it is a version of a RedCard and you can use it to pay for purchases. It will be interesting to see if they include it separately in the Q4 or Q1 10Q and/or if there is a dramatic uptick in "penetration."
    Of course loading the redbird doesn't count, but wonder do many/most of us go on to buy stuff at Target with it. I certainly do and prior to redbird hadn't shopped there in 20 years
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 11:56 am
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    Originally Posted by silver6054
    Of course loading the redbird doesn't count, but wonder do many/most of us go on to buy stuff at Target with it. I certainly do and prior to redbird hadn't shopped there in 20 years
    YES!
    Then you are doing it right -- doing what they want -- shopping with the RedBird at Target. This will help increase the penetration rate and assuming they analyze the data well, they will see where this increase is coming from (Redbird) and the card will stay around awhile.

    So, please everyone, use your Redbird to shop at Target from time to time and lets get their numbers up so they can see this card is worth keeping!!!

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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 1:23 pm
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    Originally Posted by silver6054
    Of course loading the redbird doesn't count, but wonder do many/most of us go on to buy stuff at Target with it. I certainly do and prior to redbird hadn't shopped there in 20 years
    I've been spending ~$100/mo at Target lately. Never shopped there before getting RC, but now it's so convenient because I'm there so often.
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 1:52 pm
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    Originally Posted by Nepasser
    I am trying to get my family to sign up for these cards but they are hesitant when they find out that its needs a SSN. Is there anything I can say that will put their mind at ease?
    Tell them RB is not related to their credit at all. RB doesn't even do a credit check. You will be charging on your own cc, and paying it off yourself.

    The SS# is just to identify them as real people. They can register the card themselves, and give/mail it to you. They do not need to tell you their SS#. I just logged on, and was not able to find my SS# anywhere on my account pages. Nothing will be reported to either credit bureaus or the IRS.
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 3:19 pm
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    I've heard a whisper of Nor Cal Target location selling the birds... can someone message me?

    UPDATE: Never mind, found them in CA.

    Last edited by TheEscapeArtist; Jan 20, 2015 at 6:16 pm Reason: New info
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    Old Jan 20, 2015, 3:25 pm
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    Originally Posted by DustyFoot
    I've heard a whisper of Nor Cal Target location selling the birds... can someone message me?
    It doubles as the capitol of the Republic of Ireland...There'should two Targets AFAIK only the old one carries it.
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