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Old Jan 10, 2015, 9:20 pm
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Nov 24, 2015

Dear XXXXXXXXX,

We want to let you know that we are making a change to your Target Prepaid REDcard® by American Express, and you will no longer be able to add money from your debit card at Target stores. As always, you can continue to add money to your Prepaid REDcard by using:

• Your debit card online through your Account
• Cash at a Target Store
• Direct Deposit (You can automatically add all or part of your paycheck, government benefits and federal tax refunds to your Prepaid REDcard)


DEAD FOR DEBIT CARD LOADS EFFECTIVE 10/12/2015 - MEMO: http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.co...uests-can-use/


DEAD FOR CREDIT CARD LOADS. (Amex GCs Included)

Effective May 6, 2015 registers are hard-coded to not allow credit card reload. PIN-based debit cards are working, however YMMV. PIN-based debit cards may be refused by cashiers.


WHAT IS TARGET PREPAID REDCARD?
Prepaid Redcard is a reloadable American Express card. It is only available to purchase at select Target stores.

    WEBSITE:
    This site may error when in Firefox, especially with adding payees / bill pay. Customer service says to use Chrome or Internet Explorer.
    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    PREPAID REDCARD LOAD LIMITS
    Cash (or debit card) loading at Target: ** - $1,000/transaction, $2,500/day and $5,000/month
    Online Debit Card Load * - $200/day and $1,000/month
    Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
    Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
    ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month



    All "Monthly" limits are per calendar month and reset on the 1st of each month.
    Daily limits reset at midnight Eastern time, 9 PM Pacific time.

    *For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt.

    ATM Withdrawals:
    No-fee ATM usage at US Target stores* and U.S. Allpoint network ATMs. (ATM usage not available at any other ATMs.) Find an Allpoint ATM at: www.allpointnetwork.com Note that some ATMs only allow $400/transaction. There is a $750/day and $2,000/month limit to ATM withdrawals.

    RedCard is only available in specific Target stores and is not available in all states. Go to this site to find a list of available locations:https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
    Q: Can I reload a RB at a Target that doesn't sell RB?
    Yes. However, the cashier may not know how to do it. You may be able to coach them through it by saying "It's like reloading a Starbucks (or Gift) card". For step-by-step instructions on one method of 'coaching' new cashiers see Post#1904

    Q: Can I buy or reload a RB in North Carolina?
    See post here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...a-63.html#2520
    There is currently a software issue preventing any reload of any kind in NC. It is a known issue but there is no ETA on a fix.

    Q: Can I reload the RB at any register, or just at the Customer Service desk?
    It can be done at any register, however some cashiers are not trained on how to do this and you may have to go to Customer Service.

    Q: What is the most efficient way to drain a RedCard?
    Use BillPay to pay bills. For example, pay the credit card you used to load RedCard with. You can also withdraw money at ATMs.

    Q: I cant access the BillPay feature through the RB website!
    Verify that your account information correctly reflects a 10-digit phone number (including area code). Numerous people have reported that their account only had a 7-digit phone number (no area code) and that, after updating to a 10-digit phone number, BillPay miraculously started working.

    Q: Can we buy a temporary Redbird card while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    Yes.

    Q: How many Redbird cards can you purchase at once?
    You can only purchase one Redbird card a day per SSN. If you plan to purchase more than one, be sure to use a different SSN for each purchase to avoid activation issues.

    Q: Can we register our temporary Redbird online while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    No. You will have to cancel your Bluebird or Serve account first before registering.

    Q: How do I cancel my BlueBird or Serve Account online? Do I need to call them?
    Frequent Miler posted a useful trick that will help you cancel online How to cancel Bluebird online This works for both BlueBird and Serve.

    Q: Cancelled Bluebird, why does registering Redbird error out saying Bluebird is still active?
    If you have open transactions that have not been settled, like BillPay checks that have not yet been cashed, the account cannot settle and will not be truly closed. Thus Target will reject it until it's permanently closed.

    Q: Can we get Redbird online?
    No. The only way to get Redbird is to find a participating Target store and buy a temporary card there. Some people have purchased RB on Ebay, Amazon, or through private deals. Be aware that doing so may violate the TOS of one or more of these services. Also be aware that buying an un-activated RB, you are potentially buying "stolen" merchandise; the seller *may* have simply taken the un-activated RB cards from a target store without permission. At best they got permission from a low-level employee; they certainly are not getting permission from someone authorized to allow sale of RB outside of the current Target-authorized roll out markets. It is highly recommended to only buy already activated Redbirds because many Targets which do not offer Redbirds also will not be able to activate them and you will spend a month with the Customer Service line trying to get a new one.

    Q: Does the initial load you put in when purchasing the Redbird count against the monthly limit?
    No. After registering the Redbird online, any loads done will count against your monthly limit, even on your temp card.

    Q: Can we load Redbird with Target gift cards at Target?NO.
    When loading, the register displays a large message saying that gift cards cannot be used to pay for this transaction.

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    [B]As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per debit card payment. End of story.

    Q: What credit cards can I use to reload RedCard in Target stores?
    NONE. As of May 6, 2015, credit cards cannot be used to reload.

    Q: Can I reload with a debit card?
    Yes, but only if the debit card can be authenticated with PIN-number. Signature-based debit that processes on the Visa/MasterCard/AmEx networks will NOT work.

    Q: Can I reload with a prepaid debit card or Vanilla Visa?
    Yes, but only if you have a PIN for that card.

    Q: How can I load 2 debit cards in one transaction? Example 2x$500.
    1. Swipe debit card on my terminal after total comes up $1000.
    2. PIN pad comes up. Enter 4 digit PIN.
    3. Do you want cash back? press NO
    4. Do you want full amount on this card? press NO <<<Note: I pressed YES and did not have a step 5. - PHLisa
    5. Cashier reads something on register, asks how much on this card. $500. They push something to continue.
    6. Swipe card #2. Enter PIN
    7. Repeat 3 to 5. Total: 0.00
    8. Receipt prints. Thank cashier. The end.
    (thanks to Mamibear)

    Q: Can someone else buy a Redbird card for you?
    Yes. When you buy a temp Redbird card at Target, you have to give them your drivers license info, your SSN (can be any set of numbers, does not need to be real), birthdate, and more. Then, you have to register the card online in order to get a permanent card. In the process of registering online, they ask for the birthday of the original buyer on the first screen, but you can put your own and it will still work. Either way, you can still change the details on the following screens. I did this for my wife. I bought the card at Target and used my own driver’s license, SSN, etc. But, when I got home, I registered the card to my wife. I can’t promise this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.

    Q: Can you reload Serve/Bluebird at Target?
    No.

    Q: How do I contact Target's support team to resolve an issue with my RedCard?
    Call Target's Prepaid Resolution Team, their direct telephone number is 800 438 6468 (open from 8AM to 430PM MST).

    Q: Can you have both Redbird and AFT cards?
    Yes.
    You can have both Redbird and AFT since they are independent products.

    Q: I got a "Pending" notice that the registration is being reviewed, what now?
    Add [email protected] to your address book, and check your spam folder for an email about it. You can also call in. They will need images or faxes of:
    • Social Security Documentation (must clearly show full 9 digit Social Security Number). Choose 1 of the following options:
    ◦ Social Security Card, OR
    ◦ A Medicare insurance card
    Plus...
    • Picture ID
    ◦ A valid driver's license card OR
    ◦ A valid state issued ID OR
    ◦ A valid United States Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card) OR
    ◦ A valid United States Passport (photo page only)


    Secure Document Upload
    Here's the link to upload secure documents to REDcard: https://secure.prepaidredcard.com/User/SecureFileUpload
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 12:20 am
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    Originally Posted by flnoob
    I tried to load today and as soon as the cashier swiped the RB it got an error saying that i had to call the number on the card.

    Anyone else seen this problem?


    Yeah, I got an error like this. Once, I tried to load the temporary redcard instead of the permament card. I didn't notice until the load failed. I had the wrong card in my wallet.
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 6:49 am
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    Originally Posted by marckip
    Can you get the 5% discount when doing routine shopping if you put all of the balance on Target giftcards and then tell them to leave a dollar of the transaction amount to put on the RB?
    Not in my experience. I have twice used the RB to pay off a balance where part was paid by either a Target GC or another CC and both times the 5% only came off the balance that was applied to the RB. So it would seem that Target has fixed the loophole that was mentioned in this thread many many posts ago.
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 8:53 am
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    Originally Posted by walterj
    Yeah, I got an error like this. Once, I tried to load the temporary redcard instead of the permament card. I didn't notice until the load failed. I had the wrong card in my wallet.
    I got that error thing about 3 weeks ago. Online in my RC account, it showed a load, then a credit, then a load (all the same amount). My gut tells me that it tried to go through and something stopped it, then it tried again and was successful. My cc statement showed one debit. Check your RC account activity.
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 9:02 am
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    Please pace yourselves

    This is addressed first to the person described below trying to load in Ft Collins CO, but also to everyone...

    I bumped into my favorite customer service lady yesterday at my primary Target. I wasn't loading yesterday, just shopping there. She asked me for some more information regarding the Redcard. Specifically, Why are people loading so much money on the card and what do they do with it. I explained that I personally use the card to billpay my mortgage and card payment, among other bills.

    I typically load $1000 per visit onto 2 cards (mine and spouse). She and all the other cashiers I interact with appear fine with this.

    The CS lady then told me about someone who tried to load the max (or possibly as much as $4000 per card!, I didn't quite catch it) on 4 cards. This person was not allowed to proceed with that load.

    So while she, and the other cashiers, are happy to run these loads for us, she mentioned that management doesn't particularly like this product. They are asking questions such as where is all this money going and how does this benefit Target?

    So let's please space out our loads a bit and keep things somewhat reasonable. I don't know where the line is, but if you have access to multiple Targets (and in Fort Collins, we do!), that will certainly help.
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 9:21 am
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    Originally Posted by Brewer20
    This is addressed first to the person described below trying to load in Ft Collins CO, but also to everyone...

    I bumped into my favorite customer service lady yesterday at my primary Target. I wasn't loading yesterday, just shopping there. She asked me for some more information regarding the Redcard. Specifically, Why are people loading so much money on the card and what do they do with it. I explained that I personally use the card to billpay my mortgage and card payment, among other bills.

    I typically load $1000 per visit onto 2 cards (mine and spouse). She and all the other cashiers I interact with appear fine with this.

    The CS lady then told me about someone who tried to load the max (or possibly as much as $4000 per card!, I didn't quite catch it) on 4 cards. This person was not allowed to proceed with that load.

    So while she, and the other cashiers, are happy to run these loads for us, she mentioned that management doesn't particularly like this product. They are asking questions such as where is all this money going and how does this benefit Target?

    So let's please space out our loads a bit and keep things somewhat reasonable. I don't know where the line is, but if you have access to multiple Targets (and in Fort Collins, we do!), that will certainly help.

    I understand people want to maximize loads to reduce target visits, but max loading 4 cards during the same visit draws too much attention; You have a whole month to load the card...spread it out.
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 9:27 am
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    Originally Posted by Ralf83
    My local target it checking my ID against not only my CC but my red card as well. Its probably just that store's policy. :-/
    I have had no trouble at all at any of the Fairfax County Targets over the past 5 months. Could you share which store this was?
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 9:38 am
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    Originally Posted by marckip
    Can you get the 5% discount when doing routine shopping if you put all of the balance on Target giftcards and then tell them to leave a dollar of the transaction amount to put on the RB?
    No. However, I do know that if you have an online account and your Red Card attached to it, you can pay with Target GC's and get the 5% off. You don't have to spend any $ on the red card. Now, I've used this many times with the Target CC linked to my Target account, so I'm not sure if it works for the RC the same way, but it may.

    I haven't received my RC in the mail yet, but I routinely buy the gift cards in store with a points CC, then buy diapers and many everyday products online with them and always get free shipping and 5% off.
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 10:18 am
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    for those who had some loads disappear and not show up in your online account, did you get your money? what did you have to do?
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 10:30 am
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    Originally Posted by ninim2200
    for those who had some loads disappear and not show up in your online account, did you get your money? what did you have to do?
    Most of the reports have stated it has taken about a month for the "investigation" and for the funds to be manually credited. Dealing with RB India is quite the experience!
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 11:30 am
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    Originally Posted by xSTRIKEx6864
    If your credit card is signed, the credit card company policy does not allow ID to be a requirement by a store.
    I've found quoting the card member or merchant agreement is one of the fastest ways to piss off a CSR or manager. Nobody should do this.
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 12:13 pm
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    Originally Posted by Pryde987
    I've found quoting the card member or merchant agreement is one of the fastest ways to piss off a CSR or manager. Nobody should do this.
    I know right, standing up for your rights is so yesterday.
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 12:17 pm
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    Originally Posted by ECCM
    Tried to load with AGC at a Sac, CA Target today and the CSR asked for ID and CC...when she saw the personalized AGC she said, "sorry, we can't use gift cards to load."
    If you are referring to Natomas Target, near Sacramento, yes I've had the exact same experience there. Local store manager thing, only place I've ever encountered it. Forget it and move on.

    If you happen to live near there and it's your only easy option then keep it under the radar. Single card at a time, smaller amounts that won't call for last 4 digits check, pull it out and swipe it fast then right back in your pocket.
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 12:41 pm
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    Originally Posted by TMM1982
    I know right, standing up for your rights is so yesterday.
    So you're saying that if the back of my card is signed, then the CC company does not allow the store to ask for ID? I can't imagine that is strictly true. What if I find a credit card on the ground, pre-signed, and go into a store a charge thousands. You're saying that the store is not allowed to ask for my ID?
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 12:45 pm
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    Originally Posted by cheaptom
    So you're saying that if the back of my card is signed, then the CC company does not allow the store to ask for ID? I can't imagine that is strictly true. What if I find a credit card on the ground, pre-signed, and go into a store a charge thousands. You're saying that the store is not allowed to ask for my ID?
    What they are supposed to do is compare the signatures. Personally, having had my wallet stolen and purchases made using my cards, I appreciate when an employee checks my photo ID. Most don't even check the signature.
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    Old Apr 13, 2015, 12:47 pm
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    Originally Posted by TMM1982
    I know right, standing up for your rights is so yesterday.
    Assuming you're an American, your rights are defined by the US Constitution, not a merchant agreement between Visa/MC/Amex and Target.
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