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Old Jan 10, 2015, 9:20 pm
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Nov 24, 2015

Dear XXXXXXXXX,

We want to let you know that we are making a change to your Target Prepaid REDcard® by American Express, and you will no longer be able to add money from your debit card at Target stores. As always, you can continue to add money to your Prepaid REDcard by using:

• Your debit card online through your Account
• Cash at a Target Store
• Direct Deposit (You can automatically add all or part of your paycheck, government benefits and federal tax refunds to your Prepaid REDcard)


DEAD FOR DEBIT CARD LOADS EFFECTIVE 10/12/2015 - MEMO: http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.co...uests-can-use/


DEAD FOR CREDIT CARD LOADS. (Amex GCs Included)

Effective May 6, 2015 registers are hard-coded to not allow credit card reload. PIN-based debit cards are working, however YMMV. PIN-based debit cards may be refused by cashiers.


WHAT IS TARGET PREPAID REDCARD?
Prepaid Redcard is a reloadable American Express card. It is only available to purchase at select Target stores.

    WEBSITE:
    This site may error when in Firefox, especially with adding payees / bill pay. Customer service says to use Chrome or Internet Explorer.
    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    PREPAID REDCARD LOAD LIMITS
    Cash (or debit card) loading at Target: ** - $1,000/transaction, $2,500/day and $5,000/month
    Online Debit Card Load * - $200/day and $1,000/month
    Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
    Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
    ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month



    All "Monthly" limits are per calendar month and reset on the 1st of each month.
    Daily limits reset at midnight Eastern time, 9 PM Pacific time.

    *For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt.

    ATM Withdrawals:
    No-fee ATM usage at US Target stores* and U.S. Allpoint network ATMs. (ATM usage not available at any other ATMs.) Find an Allpoint ATM at: www.allpointnetwork.com Note that some ATMs only allow $400/transaction. There is a $750/day and $2,000/month limit to ATM withdrawals.

    RedCard is only available in specific Target stores and is not available in all states. Go to this site to find a list of available locations:https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
    Q: Can I reload a RB at a Target that doesn't sell RB?
    Yes. However, the cashier may not know how to do it. You may be able to coach them through it by saying "It's like reloading a Starbucks (or Gift) card". For step-by-step instructions on one method of 'coaching' new cashiers see Post#1904

    Q: Can I buy or reload a RB in North Carolina?
    See post here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...a-63.html#2520
    There is currently a software issue preventing any reload of any kind in NC. It is a known issue but there is no ETA on a fix.

    Q: Can I reload the RB at any register, or just at the Customer Service desk?
    It can be done at any register, however some cashiers are not trained on how to do this and you may have to go to Customer Service.

    Q: What is the most efficient way to drain a RedCard?
    Use BillPay to pay bills. For example, pay the credit card you used to load RedCard with. You can also withdraw money at ATMs.

    Q: I cant access the BillPay feature through the RB website!
    Verify that your account information correctly reflects a 10-digit phone number (including area code). Numerous people have reported that their account only had a 7-digit phone number (no area code) and that, after updating to a 10-digit phone number, BillPay miraculously started working.

    Q: Can we buy a temporary Redbird card while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    Yes.

    Q: How many Redbird cards can you purchase at once?
    You can only purchase one Redbird card a day per SSN. If you plan to purchase more than one, be sure to use a different SSN for each purchase to avoid activation issues.

    Q: Can we register our temporary Redbird online while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    No. You will have to cancel your Bluebird or Serve account first before registering.

    Q: How do I cancel my BlueBird or Serve Account online? Do I need to call them?
    Frequent Miler posted a useful trick that will help you cancel online How to cancel Bluebird online This works for both BlueBird and Serve.

    Q: Cancelled Bluebird, why does registering Redbird error out saying Bluebird is still active?
    If you have open transactions that have not been settled, like BillPay checks that have not yet been cashed, the account cannot settle and will not be truly closed. Thus Target will reject it until it's permanently closed.

    Q: Can we get Redbird online?
    No. The only way to get Redbird is to find a participating Target store and buy a temporary card there. Some people have purchased RB on Ebay, Amazon, or through private deals. Be aware that doing so may violate the TOS of one or more of these services. Also be aware that buying an un-activated RB, you are potentially buying "stolen" merchandise; the seller *may* have simply taken the un-activated RB cards from a target store without permission. At best they got permission from a low-level employee; they certainly are not getting permission from someone authorized to allow sale of RB outside of the current Target-authorized roll out markets. It is highly recommended to only buy already activated Redbirds because many Targets which do not offer Redbirds also will not be able to activate them and you will spend a month with the Customer Service line trying to get a new one.

    Q: Does the initial load you put in when purchasing the Redbird count against the monthly limit?
    No. After registering the Redbird online, any loads done will count against your monthly limit, even on your temp card.

    Q: Can we load Redbird with Target gift cards at Target?NO.
    When loading, the register displays a large message saying that gift cards cannot be used to pay for this transaction.

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    [B]As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per debit card payment. End of story.

    Q: What credit cards can I use to reload RedCard in Target stores?
    NONE. As of May 6, 2015, credit cards cannot be used to reload.

    Q: Can I reload with a debit card?
    Yes, but only if the debit card can be authenticated with PIN-number. Signature-based debit that processes on the Visa/MasterCard/AmEx networks will NOT work.

    Q: Can I reload with a prepaid debit card or Vanilla Visa?
    Yes, but only if you have a PIN for that card.

    Q: How can I load 2 debit cards in one transaction? Example 2x$500.
    1. Swipe debit card on my terminal after total comes up $1000.
    2. PIN pad comes up. Enter 4 digit PIN.
    3. Do you want cash back? press NO
    4. Do you want full amount on this card? press NO <<<Note: I pressed YES and did not have a step 5. - PHLisa
    5. Cashier reads something on register, asks how much on this card. $500. They push something to continue.
    6. Swipe card #2. Enter PIN
    7. Repeat 3 to 5. Total: 0.00
    8. Receipt prints. Thank cashier. The end.
    (thanks to Mamibear)

    Q: Can someone else buy a Redbird card for you?
    Yes. When you buy a temp Redbird card at Target, you have to give them your drivers license info, your SSN (can be any set of numbers, does not need to be real), birthdate, and more. Then, you have to register the card online in order to get a permanent card. In the process of registering online, they ask for the birthday of the original buyer on the first screen, but you can put your own and it will still work. Either way, you can still change the details on the following screens. I did this for my wife. I bought the card at Target and used my own driver’s license, SSN, etc. But, when I got home, I registered the card to my wife. I can’t promise this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.

    Q: Can you reload Serve/Bluebird at Target?
    No.

    Q: How do I contact Target's support team to resolve an issue with my RedCard?
    Call Target's Prepaid Resolution Team, their direct telephone number is 800 438 6468 (open from 8AM to 430PM MST).

    Q: Can you have both Redbird and AFT cards?
    Yes.
    You can have both Redbird and AFT since they are independent products.

    Q: I got a "Pending" notice that the registration is being reviewed, what now?
    Add [email protected] to your address book, and check your spam folder for an email about it. You can also call in. They will need images or faxes of:
    • Social Security Documentation (must clearly show full 9 digit Social Security Number). Choose 1 of the following options:
    ◦ Social Security Card, OR
    ◦ A Medicare insurance card
    Plus...
    • Picture ID
    ◦ A valid driver's license card OR
    ◦ A valid state issued ID OR
    ◦ A valid United States Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card) OR
    ◦ A valid United States Passport (photo page only)


    Secure Document Upload
    Here's the link to upload secure documents to REDcard: https://secure.prepaidredcard.com/User/SecureFileUpload
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    Old Mar 19, 2015, 11:01 pm
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    Mountain View, CA - Reload Success

    Successfully reloaded 2 cards at the Mountain View location on Showers Dr. for $2k. No issues with GS.

    I'm leaving back home to NYC where we're severely limited in the number of Targets. The Bay Area is fertile, you folks are lucky.
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    Old Mar 19, 2015, 11:06 pm
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    Originally Posted by Mango716
    Successfully reloaded 2 cards at the Mountain View location on Showers Dr. for $2k. No issues with GS.

    I'm leaving back home to NYC where we're severely limited in the number of Targets. The Bay Area is fertile, you folks are lucky.
    LI has been good to me so far if you're able to make the trip out a few times a month.
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    Old Mar 19, 2015, 11:27 pm
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    Originally Posted by mastermind85
    Did he say it right away or did you mention you were loading with a CC?
    There's been a few people saying that that Redbird customer service told them you're not supposed to load with a credit card. I've read these reports mostly related to the failed loads of 2/25...when people would call to find out why it didn't load, they seemed to have gotten this answer (assuming the reports were true).

    I wouldn't put any weight on this though, customer service reps often read from scripts or try to rule out possible issues, i.e. let me read this script that says Redbird can be loaded with cash or debit; well you say you loaded with credit, that must be the reason why your load didn't show up.

    Even if this wasn't the case and they were specifically instructed to say this to customers, it means jack; they don't get to decide and the credit card loads are not on an advise basis. You/us will be able to load Redbird with a credit card until the fat Target lady sings another song and says we can't load with a credit card $5K/month, or at all.
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    Old Mar 20, 2015, 2:13 am
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    Originally Posted by voodoomonkey
    Summer 2015 is clearly "this Summer", not "next Summer".
    Originally Posted by PaulMSN
    No, not at all. Both terms are ambiguous, and individuals differ in how they perceive them. Also, context influences how the terms are perceived. If I said today, "This summer I'm going to Asia, but next summer I'm going to Europe, the meaning is clearly 2015 -- Asia, 2016 -- Europe, but if I simply said, "Next summer I'm going to Asia", it could mean 2015 or 2016, based on your own perceptions of the nearness of summer 2015 and the usage of "next". To me it would mean 2015 until summer was close. To others -- like you -- it would mean 2016.

    The English language is quite slippery. Just ask any foreigner learning it.
    Yes the terms may be ambiguous but there is always a "best" way of saying something. Just like when you took the SAT, you were always told to choose the "best" answer.

    If the SAT asked this very same question about which words to use to refer to the summer of 2015:
    A: This summer
    B: Next Summer
    C: None of the above

    A is the correct answer.
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    Old Mar 20, 2015, 6:19 am
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    I was looking for the thread on the Prepaid REDcard, but it seems to have gone missing. This seems to be the thread on the pros/cons of extravagant travel and conspicuous consumption. Or is this the English grammar thread? Any way we can get back on topic, folks?
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    Old Mar 20, 2015, 7:08 am
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    Originally Posted by ANC RED-EYE
    I can't seem to find any info on this max. With a temporary card, is $1500 the max total that can be loaded on it, or the max balance it can carry? Is there a daily maximum or a per transaction maximum?

    Thanks for any assistance!
    I'm not sure if im much of a help but I loaded $5 when I first purchased it (I had someone else buy it for me since nowhere around me sells them) and then I loaded $1495 since, I think, the temporary card only allows up to $1500. I never tried to go over that though.
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    Old Mar 20, 2015, 7:34 am
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    Originally Posted by TMM1982
    Yes the terms may be ambiguous but there is always a "best" way of saying something. Just like when you took the SAT, you were always told to choose the "best" answer.

    If the SAT asked this very same question about which words to use to refer to the summer of 2015:
    A: This summer
    B: Next Summer
    C: None of the above

    A is the correct answer.
    As you did not specify when you are taking the SAT, your question is meaningless as an example.
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    Old Mar 20, 2015, 7:34 am
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    Originally Posted by RickyBobby
    IMO, this has nothing to do with the AGC loads, but the debit card load. I assume you tried loading with a PPBDC and not the PayPal prepaid card (prepaid will not work)? I am pretty sure this has happened to many people after loading online the first few times. They need to verify your card which requires you to send in a pic of the card and a pic of your ID. It has happened to me both with Serve and RB.

    Thanks. Yah, it's the PPBDC. So you called Serve and RB and sent in the additional information?
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    Old Mar 20, 2015, 7:36 am
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    Originally Posted by NoonRadar
    All you've done with your Redbird, activity-wise, is to load a ton of Amex gift cards? Why not also drain that entire amount on the ATM 2 minutes later? lol

    Tell me you're just trolling...
    I loaded $1,000 one day and $1,000 a few days later...a ton?
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    Old Mar 20, 2015, 8:16 am
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    Originally Posted by PaulMSN
    No, not at all. Both terms are ambiguous, and individuals differ in how they perceive them. Also, context influences how the terms are perceived. If I said today, "This summer I'm going to Asia, but next summer I'm going to Europe, the meaning is clearly 2015 -- Asia, 2016 -- Europe, but if I simply said, "Next summer I'm going to Asia", it could mean 2015 or 2016, based on your own perceptions of the nearness of summer 2015 and the usage of "next". To me it would mean 2015 until summer was close. To others -- like you -- it would mean 2016.

    The English language is quite slippery. Just ask any foreigner learning it.
    Ah, the Grammar Wars on FT, gotta love em, right? I agree that context is key. In this case, since we all know you can't book award flights 15+ months in advance, clearly I was referring to Summer 2015. Except for those who are looking for chances to bicker.
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    Old Mar 20, 2015, 8:20 am
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    Originally Posted by MarkMColo
    I was looking for the thread on the Prepaid REDcard, but it seems to have gone missing. This seems to be the thread on the pros/cons of extravagant travel and conspicuous consumption. Or is this the English grammar thread? Any way we can get back on topic, folks?
    Yes, indeed. Lets get back to the really interesting posts like "I still can't load in NC", how much can be loaded to a temp card, does anyone know of a target near Paducah that has the cards. And my favorite, is it safe to buy a RB online.
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    Old Mar 20, 2015, 8:22 am
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    Originally Posted by MarkMColo
    I was looking for the thread on the Prepaid REDcard, but it seems to have gone missing. This seems to be the thread on the pros/cons of extravagant travel and conspicuous consumption. Or is this the English grammar thread? Any way we can get back on topic, folks?
    Concur.

    Finished loading my card and my wife's card for the month a couple days ago, no problems. Still lots of Redcards in Indianapolis and no $1000 daily limits or CSR problems that I've had.

    Billpay'd a bunch this morning, no issues.
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    Old Mar 20, 2015, 8:34 am
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    I have been to a target in nc yesterday, the rep told me they suspended loading for now, he is not sure how long the suspension will last. anyone lucky in NC Or aware of any stores loading RedBird in NC
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    Old Mar 20, 2015, 8:36 am
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    Originally Posted by TMM1982
    Yes the terms may be ambiguous but there is always a "best" way of saying something. Just like when you took the SAT, you were always told to choose the "best" answer.

    If the SAT asked this very same question about which words to use to refer to the summer of 2015:
    A: This summer
    B: Next Summer
    C: None of the above

    A is the correct answer.
    You think it's the best way. I do not agree, and unless you can show me that exact SAT question, I don't think you're justified in citing the SATs as your authoritative source.
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    Old Mar 20, 2015, 8:43 am
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    Hello,
    I usually load VGC on the target Redcard.
    Mostly the answer is YES but Does anyone load MCGC or can confirm if MCGC also can be loaded to redcard?

    Thanks
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