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Ritz Jan 29, 2013 4:23 am


Originally Posted by Astrophsx (Post 20143915)
I'd like to call out Daraius at MillionMileSecrets for this post on his blog:
http://millionmilesecrets.com/2013/0...al-debit-card/

While he did write:
"But you’ve got to be careful with PayPal and DO NOT try this if you can’t afford to be without the money you load in your PayPal account should PayPal decide to suspend your account!"

I would like travel bloggers to actively show that they are participating in a scheme like this with something like screen shots. Loading your account one time with $1k in gift cards to me does not mean you've full researched this scheme. At least someone like frequent miler will post details of his active participation... trials and errors.. and tend to keep readers updated on if a deal is dead or if people are getting shut down.

Since a travel blogger like Daraius makes a direct income off his readers (not just ads that are being loaded on his page) via credit card sign ups and then telling people who to rack up miles. I think that I'd like to see that he is actively working a deal that is such a high risk.

I've talked to a large number of people who in the past have had their accounts frozen along with their funds. So if he is suggesting to readers that you are less likely to have this happen if you are not depositing the funds directly into your bank and spending the money via the debit card... I'd like to see evidence to back this up. I think if you are going to suggest such a high risk deal to readers that he should be like frequent miler and actually be testing this stuff out and reporting it to his readers, because if not.. does he really care if his readers get their funds frozen? Would you not call this lazy blogging or reporting?

Responses are welcome :)

I'd call your post misplaced and a violation of FT T&C's. :)
That being said - to each their own (I'm not a PP fan either).

Jaimito Cartero Jan 29, 2013 4:27 am


Originally Posted by bigdogn12 (Post 20144298)
How old is "older"? I've had my paypal business debit since 2006 and am at 1%.

Mine was first issued in 2002 or 2003.

drdrew450 Jan 29, 2013 7:48 am

I have had success using the paypal business debit, nothing from paypal yet. I use it for a bunch of regular spend, then buy money orders or get cash back at the register.

Whenever I buy a reload with a giftcard/prepaid card I put 500 on the card and then pay the 3.95 with my paypal then get cash back.

farwest101 Jan 29, 2013 10:53 am

Agreed. Daraius only does "test" transactions on these cards but writes as if has actually tested the limits. I don't think he uses any of these methods to their limit (or anywhere close)- or even uses many ever again.

But why would he even need to? He pimps his referrals relentlessly and surely makes significantly more that way than he ever could generating spend. He simply churns CCs and could never do what FrequentMiler is planning with the March Million Madness challenge.

The worst thing is he trolls FT for ideas and passes.them off as his own.



Originally Posted by Astrophsx (Post 20143915)
I'd like to call out Daraius at MillionMileSecrets for this post on his blog:
http://millionmilesecrets.com/2013/0...al-debit-card/

While he did write:
"But you’ve got to be careful with PayPal and DO NOT try this if you can’t afford to be without the money you load in your PayPal account should PayPal decide to suspend your account!"

I would like travel bloggers to actively show that they are participating in a scheme like this with something like screen shots. Loading your account one time with $1k in gift cards to me does not mean you've full researched this scheme. At least someone like frequent miler will post details of his active participation... trials and errors.. and tend to keep readers updated on if a deal is dead or if people are getting shut down.

Since a travel blogger like Daraius makes a direct income off his readers (not just ads that are being loaded on his page) via credit card sign ups and then telling people who to rack up miles. I think that I'd like to see that he is actively working a deal that is such a high risk.

I've talked to a large number of people who in the past have had their accounts frozen along with their funds. So if he is suggesting to readers that you are less likely to have this happen if you are not depositing the funds directly into your bank and spending the money via the debit card... I'd like to see evidence to back this up. I think if you are going to suggest such a high risk deal to readers that he should be like frequent miler and actually be testing this stuff out and reporting it to his readers, because if not.. does he really care if his readers get their funds frozen? Would you not call this lazy blogging or reporting?

Responses are welcome :)


lad2 Jan 29, 2013 11:00 am


Originally Posted by farwest101 (Post 20146552)
The worst thing is he trolls FT for ideas and passes.them off as his own.

Or claim that "a reader" tipped/asked about it. :rolleyes:

Astrophsx Jan 29, 2013 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by lad2 (Post 20146599)
Or claim that "a reader" tipped/asked about it. :rolleyes:

Is it just me or did I see extra things added to his warning? Also note, he has not made more than one response to the comments on his blog post.

I'm just surprised he would write about paypal. From what I've seen.. if you get your Amazon account frozen.. after a bit of time you get your funds back.. but I've heard some major horror stories about Paypal.

The MillionMileSecrets blog has not been around for very long. I'm just curious if a few people got their accounts frozen by Paypal and did not see a return on their large deposits for a very long time what kinds of things they would post about this blogger.

We all know that the Frugal Travel Guy had some very rough times after the Suntrust deal, but he has been around so long that most people were able to forgive and forget due to him being around so long an such an integral part of the community. Seems to me this might be a different story for Daraius.

romsdeals3 Jan 29, 2013 4:35 pm

1/22/13 - I was able to buy a Paypal Mycashcard with AMEX Hilton from 1 out of 2 stores. Paypal is risky, so I will not overdo it. You can have one personal and one business paypal account. I think Target AMEX is a better way to go, but if you need more options Paypal is worth a try. I would not exceed a $1000 balance at any time, but that's just me.

raj49 Jan 30, 2013 10:45 am


Originally Posted by romsdeals3 (Post 20148765)
1/22/13 - I was able to buy a Paypal Mycashcard.

I just loaded my paypl with a My Cash card. I sent some funds to my sisters paypl. Apparently, funds loaded with a MY Cash card are not considered as "paypal balance" but rather "credit card" funds and transferring incurs fees.

drdrew450 Jan 30, 2013 11:02 am


Originally Posted by raj49 (Post 20153260)
I just loaded my paypl with a My Cash card. I sent some funds to my sisters paypl. Apparently, funds loaded with a MY Cash card are not considered as "paypal balance" but rather "credit card" funds and transferring incurs fees.

paypal mycash cards go to my paypal balance, not sure what you are talking about.

sk8uno Jan 30, 2013 3:12 pm


Originally Posted by raj49 (Post 20153260)
I just loaded my paypl with a My Cash card. I sent some funds to my sisters paypl. Apparently, funds loaded with a MY Cash card are not considered as "paypal balance" but rather "credit card" funds and transferring incurs fees.


Originally Posted by drdrew450 (Post 20153383)
paypal mycash cards go to my paypal balance, not sure what you are talking about.

Yeah, raj49, your information is incorrect.

raj49 Jan 30, 2013 5:07 pm


Originally Posted by sk8uno (Post 20155136)
Yeah, raj49, your information is incorrect.

When I did the transfer, pp deducted 2.9% plus 30 cents. I had an empty pp balance before the My Cash load.

drdrew450 Jan 30, 2013 5:10 pm

When you transfer you have to select this option:

"I'm sending money to family or friends."

raj49 Jan 31, 2013 8:44 am


Originally Posted by drdrew450 (Post 20155879)
When you transfer you have to select this option:

"I'm sending money to family or friends."

Ok thanks. I clicked the "Personal" tab this time. Doesn't look like any fee

UA Fan Jan 31, 2013 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel (Post 20143144)
And now they've got your bank account info, something I would certainly *NEVER* give them!

Why?

killercut Jan 31, 2013 7:12 pm

because paypal has no problem taking money out of your bank account whenever they feel like it...


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