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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 10:30 am
  #5866  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: CT
Programs: AA, SW, UR
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by igids1
Has anyone used the serve to make a mortgage payment? If so, how long did it take to post to your mortgage account?

Also, if your mortgage is say 1500 each month, can you pay 1,000 with serve, and send in a check for 500?

Thanks.
I just completed my first mortgage payment of about $1,400 on Serve. My bank was on their predefined list so I just needed to enter my loan number, etc. Target date for payment was a few days after I set it up. Confirmed today that payment was received at the bank.
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 10:32 am
  #5867  
 
Join Date: May 2013
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Please excuse me if this was already addressed. I initially got my Serve card over the phone and didn't know about the Serve with ISIS. In order to get the higher limits with serve, is it advisable to close my current serve and reapply via the app?
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 10:39 am
  #5868  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Originally Posted by Jeffphd
Please excuse me if this was already addressed. I initially got my Serve card over the phone and didn't know about the Serve with ISIS. In order to get the higher limits with serve, is it advisable to close my current serve and reapply via the app?
yes, you have to first close serve. you cannot have both under the same name.
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 10:44 am
  #5869  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: In the ATL
Posts: 156
Originally Posted by bmrisko
What is the Serve can?
I think someone needs to open up a can on the endless noobs ignoring stuff here. This crap is exactly why stuff is going underground.
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 12:40 pm
  #5870  
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
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So I read the process in the wiki to switch from BB to serve but it went like this for me:

1. Closed BB.

2. 2 minutes later, opened Isis and added a serve account.

3. For serve I Used cell phone and full SS. No error messages. Account created.

4. Received confirmation email/ account opened as soon as I hit the link.

5. Went to Isis and serve card populated.

6. About an hour later (had a meeting) $15 showed up in the account.

I had no phone in, no documents, no confirmation of ID requested. (I did change my cell number from "mobile" to "home" in BB before I closed it.)

I see it's the usual 7-10 days to receive the plastic card. As I recall (a week or so back) someone said it was best to WAIT for plastic to arrive and activate it before making online loads to the account. For some reason this enabled the higher limits. Is that correct or did I make it up in a foggy slurry of serve thread reading? Because I've been all over this thing to make sure it set up correctly---which it did. I just don't want to screw it up at the last second.
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 12:42 pm
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Join Date: May 2014
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Following up on my attempts to get a cheap phone/plan to sign up for Serve Isis.

Got my cheapy droid incredible 4G. Went to Verizon and got the cheapest plan they offered ($45/mo prepaid). Now attempting to sign up for Isis and it tells me my wallet is terminated right away. Several calls to Verizon and it sounds like you can't use a prepaid plan with Isis, which is total bologna. Cheapest post-paid plan is $55/mo, with an ETF of $350 if I cancel before 6 months.

....

So my attempt to get Serve on the cheap is now at least $330 (6 mos * $55). In the long run it may still be worth it, but anyone else have any other thoughts on that? I saw the post earlier about setting up Isis without a compatible phone, but that's through TMO.

(edit, just found this on Verizon's site confirming no-go on prepaids. Unfortunately I never considered this before: http://www.verizonwireless.com/suppo...is-iphone.html)

Last edited by unkinected; Aug 6, 2014 at 12:57 pm Reason: Found Verizon link
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 1:08 pm
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Originally Posted by unkinected
So my attempt to get Serve on the cheap is now at least $330 (6 mos * $55). In the long run it may still be worth it...
ISIS Serve accounts enable an extra $6K/year in spend. Even with a 2% CB card, that's 33 months before you hit breakeven.

That is not the way to do it...
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 1:11 pm
  #5873  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne, Florida, USA
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Originally Posted by unkinected
Following up on my attempts to get a cheap phone/plan to sign up for Serve Isis.

Got my cheapy droid incredible 4G. Went to Verizon and got the cheapest plan they offered ($45/mo prepaid). Now attempting to sign up for Isis and it tells me my wallet is terminated right away. Several calls to Verizon and it sounds like you can't use a prepaid plan with Isis, which is total bologna. Cheapest post-paid plan is $55/mo, with an ETF of $350 if I cancel before 6 months.

....

So my attempt to get Serve on the cheap is now at least $330 (6 mos * $55). In the long run it may still be worth it, but anyone else have any other thoughts on that? I saw the post earlier about setting up Isis without a compatible phone, but that's through TMO.

(edit, just found this on Verizon's site confirming no-go on prepaids. Unfortunately I never considered this before: http://www.verizonwireless.com/suppo...is-iphone.html)
I can confirm you can get ISIS with T-Mobile prepaid. They have $2 or $3/day data + voice plans. I think the minimum refill amount is $10. They have $.01 SIM cards on their website: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/p...-KIT-Micro-SIM
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 1:25 pm
  #5874  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Originally Posted by michael_v
I can confirm you can get ISIS with T-Mobile prepaid. They have $2 or $3/day data + voice plans. I think the minimum refill amount is $10. They have $.01 SIM cards on their website: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/p...-KIT-Micro-SIM
Guys I keep seeing these approaches of 45 or more by verizon and 3 dollars a day for tmobile, the plan I have is far cheaper and more reliable. Verizon is not giving as much right now, so go with t-mobile either way. If you want the plan to get signed and then dump it ASAP, sure then get the day plan - but you guys are missing the point!!!

The point is to get the FREE 50 dollars a MONTH from Serve! To do that you want the cheapest plan for a MONTH! Now sure, you can get a day SIM - keep it for two days, and CREAM CVS for 50 bucks, but man that is crazy, but if you have the ability - go for it!

Otherwise, if you are a bit more level headed and desire to keep a normal relationship with your CVS cashiers, I have a month by month plan with TMobile for 30 bux. Has 100 minutes of talk and unlimited text and data till 3GB, at 4G after that it is 3G. Works GREAT for me (option is hidden at bottom of page):

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 2:15 pm
  #5875  
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Join Date: Aug 2014
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Originally Posted by raccah
Guys I keep seeing these approaches of 45 or more by verizon and 3 dollars a day for tmobile, the plan I have is far cheaper and more reliable. Verizon is not giving as much right now, so go with t-mobile either way. If you want the plan to get signed and then dump it ASAP, sure then get the day plan - but you guys are missing the point!!!

The point is to get the FREE 50 dollars a MONTH from Serve! To do that you want the cheapest plan for a MONTH! Now sure, you can get a day SIM - keep it for two days, and CREAM CVS for 50 bucks, but man that is crazy, but if you have the ability - go for it!

Otherwise, if you are a bit more level headed and desire to keep a normal relationship with your CVS cashiers, I have a month by month plan with TMobile for 30 bux. Has 100 minutes of talk and unlimited text and data till 3GB, at 4G after that it is 3G. Works GREAT for me (option is hidden at bottom of page):

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
You are paying monthly, which is not the cheapest.

If you want to maintain Isis and T-Mobile service, the cheapest option is $2 once for pay-by-the-day plan, $100 once for Gold member, and then $10 per year for pay-as-you-go plan in the long term.
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 2:16 pm
  #5876  
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 201
Originally Posted by michael_v
I can confirm you can get ISIS with T-Mobile prepaid. They have $2 or $3/day data + voice plans. I think the minimum refill amount is $10. They have $.01 SIM cards on their website: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/p...-KIT-Micro-SIM
Don't know why I didn't think of this, but the Droid Incredible 4G is not carrier/SIM locked. So theoretically I can just go to a TMO store and get a day pass as suggested and sign up for ISIS Serve that way. I'll try that route next. Guess I just saw the Verizon logo on the front and thought I was stuck.

I'll report back.
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 3:13 pm
  #5877  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,060
Originally Posted by XP1
You are paying monthly, which is not the cheapest.

If you want to maintain Isis and T-Mobile service, the cheapest option is $2 once for pay-by-the-day plan, $100 once for Gold member, and then $10 per year for pay-as-you-go plan in the long term.
This plan is my phone plan and it works with ISIS, so how can u get cheaper, if u want a cellphone and ISIS??
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 3:33 pm
  #5878  
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 282
Originally Posted by raccah
This plan is my phone plan and it works with ISIS, so how can u get cheaper, if u want a cellphone and ISIS??
Depends on your phone usage.

For high phone usage, unlimited plans are cheaper.
For low phone usage, pay-as-you-go plan is cheaper.
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 4:28 pm
  #5879  
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: STL
Posts: 22
Originally Posted by Tuppins
"Online Credit Card Loads...
...
When adding a new card you will usually need to call in for verification of the new card on the second load try."


You're welcome! ^
FYI - When I got an error doing the second CC load, I just waited a week and they eventually cleared the alert. My Serve is account is in my wife's name waiting a week was easier than getting her to call in for my "stupid hobby".
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Old Aug 6, 2014, 6:31 pm
  #5880  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: philly
Posts: 85
Does anyone know one vip serve card? is it same as serve?
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