You don't understand. Sure it is easy to just say "just go find it" but I think its just easier to provide a quick answer to each question and then if someone still asks the question, you can just point to "look at the Wiki" instead of "its buried in this humongous 200+ page thread". Just like any sort of MS, people want to do a lot of research before doing so, so your suggestion of just "figure it out for yourself by doing" approach does not work. I certainly wouldn't want any new AP user for MS to just do stuff that can ruin the game. For example a common question that gets asked is "what triggers Amazon to shut down your account?" There is no easy answer to this but in the wiki it could list "using same IP address to make the transaction, doing A>B and B>A, same bank accounts and CCs have all shown to increase chances of shutdown". Something like that would be sufficient.

The reality is that people are not going to read 200+ pages of the thread and really a wiki is suppose to essentially be a FAQ. If you look at any Slickdeals thread, the wiki section is a FAQ. If you look at the Bluebird thread in the wiki section. Now that is useful information. A wiki that just outlines what questions has been asked and then tell people to search for it in the 200+ pages is not useful at all.

No more arguing! I believe what you are wishing for is done. If you have any other questions you'd like to add let me know or do it yourself! :)

I think the wiki looks a lot better now. At least it provides answers to the most common questions. Thanks for the update.

Just to add some data. When you got shut down on accts, were you doing A>B>A? Or we're you mixing it with a third party? Also, were you using the same computer=IP signature for them to track you down on transactions?

At the same time though, we don't know what causes shut downs, it's all speculation.


At the same time though, the VAST majority of questions are repeats which are asked and answered within the last 10 pages, usually the last 2-3, which just shows an unwillingness to search or even spend a few minutes looking.

I added a touch to the wiki, to make answers more clear and less vague. I didn't delete anything, just added key words where appropriate.

Shouldn't we keep this discussion in the other thread? Seems like it'll be more organized that way, and will not clog up this thread. Just mentioning this because I believe there is a great dialog in the other thread, and would hate for points to be missed there due to them being elsewhere.

After putting it off for months I finally did my first AP in January. The wiki is excellent but I just have one more question. Do people send all $1k at once or should the amounts vary?

I break it up personally. But it totals $1K anyways, so I don't see why you couldn't.

I do the same, I don't know if it makes any difference but do 2-3 transactions of various amounts each month.

I broke it up this month between two accounts, but I have always just done the straight $1k. Too many accounts to keep track of which money is going where and making sure they all get paid correctly. It would be possible, but I use AP for it's efficiency.

I've done A>B and B>A every month at $1k a piece (one transaction) for almost two years now. No issue.

Same address, different names, different SS#s, different bank accounts, sometimes same CC.

funding source: JCB CC
treated as: purchase
wiki: I updated question 1's answer

Another data point to add to the wiki, is the gift card expiration date trick. I would update it but I don't know the exact wording for it.

Good point! I'll figure it out...