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iminsandiego Oct 30, 2013 9:03 am


Originally Posted by zenride (Post 21681787)
I don't know if sending payments to the same address can be cause of account closure. I would apply for another account with a slightly different name spelling and different email. I would also avoid making payments to the same address if you can. It's also possible that using the same computer/IP was the cause of closure even though it has not been a problem for me yet, so no harm in avoiding that too.

I don't think it's the same IP either that got him shut down. I have been using the same computer for my wife and I for over a year with no issue. Of course we may just be lucky.

gpapadop Oct 30, 2013 9:09 am


Originally Posted by gv111 (Post 21693523)
Because US bank is a totally different animal...

So true, so true.

f0xx Oct 30, 2013 10:21 am


Originally Posted by iminsandiego (Post 21694621)
I don't think it's the same IP either that got him shut down. I have been using the same computer for my wife and I for over a year with no issue. Of course we may just be lucky.

I just use different browsers for different accounts. Does it make a difference? I doubt it. But just a little peace of mind.

riversidetom Oct 30, 2013 10:30 am

asking for a friend because I've never made the mistake but....

anybody know what happens when you select Cash Advance instead of Goods & Services (card was a Citi AA)?

hitman1420 Oct 30, 2013 11:13 am


Originally Posted by riversidetom (Post 21695148)
asking for a friend because I've never made the mistake but....

anybody know what happens when you select Cash Advance instead of Goods & Services (card was a Citi AA)?

Then you pay a cash advance fee, that's pretty straightforward, isn't it?

PainCorp Oct 30, 2013 3:20 pm


Originally Posted by gv111 (Post 21693523)
Because US bank is a totally different animal and I don't want to jeopardize this card by even a smallest risk.

If you don't want to jeopardize a card, don't MS on it, pretty simple.

AscorbylPalmitate Oct 30, 2013 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by gv111 (Post 21693523)
Because US bank is a totally different animal and I don't want to jeopardize this card by even a smallest risk.

i MS on my US Bank CC. nothing happened.

riversidetom Oct 30, 2013 7:17 pm


Originally Posted by hitman1420 (Post 21695413)
Then you pay a cash advance fee, that's pretty straightforward, isn't it?

yeah and i figured i might take flack for asking but i didn't know if anyone else had any additional issues on top of the CA fee because of the mistake.

i appreciate the feedback.

Astrophsx Oct 30, 2013 7:33 pm


Originally Posted by iminsandiego (Post 21694621)
I don't think it's the same IP either that got him shut down. I have been using the same computer for my wife and I for over a year with no issue. Of course we may just be lucky.

Back in 2010 Amazon closed down a large number of people who created multiple accounts. These were people who were doing something around 8+ accounts within opening their account in the first month. Some were allowed to come back in as long as they didn't operate too many accounts. In 2010 I got an email saying that they permitted no more than 3 accounts per home. They have since not sent out any more emails with this information. A very large number of people are doing AZ payments. It's on tons of blogs and frequently on Dan's Deals. Out of the large number of people that are doing this deal very few ever post about being shut down. This could be because they don't care to share on a public forum or that Amazon just isn't shutting down many people.

I've done 3 accounts since 2010 and triangle my payments. The only unique thing to each account is the email address and the bank account. I've stayed in contact with many people and no one has ever been shut down for having 3 accounts. Doesn't matter how you structure the payments or the number of IP addresses. Amazon could randomly select accounts from time to time to randomly review, but it's not a bad risk to take. I typically liquidate my Amex gift cards that I earned 2% back with Big Crumbs.

You do this deal at your own risk, but I think it's pretty safe to say that having 3 or fewer accounts keeps you in the clear. You shouldn't worry too much about methods to send while you are under this limit. It would be helpful if in the future a wiki was started for people to state which cards don't work and those who were shut down to state why they think they were flagged.

You will notice some people getting shut down from time to time but if they've been honest so far on Flyertalk it seems they might have just been randomly flagged for an account review. I wouldn't send more money than you are comfortable having frozen for a month or two.

KennyBSAT Oct 30, 2013 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by riversidetom (Post 21698141)
yeah and i figured i might take flack for asking but i didn't know if anyone else had any additional issues on top of the CA fee because of the mistake.

i appreciate the feedback.

Cash advances typically do not earn points or count toward minimum spending requirements.

Slickw Oct 30, 2013 8:21 pm


Originally Posted by gv111 (Post 21693523)
Because US bank is a totally different animal and I don't want to jeopardize this card by even a smallest risk.


Originally Posted by gpapadop (Post 21694647)
So true, so true.

Are they quicker to close accounts than some of the other card issuers?

ChrisFlyer66 Oct 30, 2013 10:33 pm


Originally Posted by gv111 (Post 21693523)
Because US bank is a totally different animal and I don't want to jeopardize this card by even a smallest risk.

Are there reports of US Bank shutting people down for MS? I've done quite a bit of MS on my flexperks and Club Carlson cards ($5k month total for several months), with no trouble so far.

flyertalkingallday Oct 30, 2013 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by Slickw (Post 21698424)
Are they quicker to close accounts than some of the other card issuers?

Doubt it. I MS like crazy on my Flexperks card, and nothing has happened so far other than a few fraud alerts.

dogbyte Oct 30, 2013 11:52 pm

I read some reports on dansdeals that Amazon has been more aggressive in closing accounts, especially for using GCs. Has anyone had any issue this month? I went through my 3 accounts without any issues for October. Since November is just around the corner, I am wondering if I should be more cautious.

Stiga9 Oct 31, 2013 1:40 am


Originally Posted by f0xx (Post 21695097)
I just use different browsers for different accounts. Does it make a difference? I doubt it. But just a little peace of mind.

It depends. What does the f0xx say?


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