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crimson12 Nov 9, 2013 1:14 pm

So far I have been sending money every month (almost) as follows:

A>B.

I have not done A>B>A, given the obvious risk there.

Have people had success doing A>B>C>A? I saw the post above about A>B>C>D>A, but I don't think I can loop in four people...

tonyflyer Nov 9, 2013 1:27 pm

No CB from discover card for AP
 
Statement just posted, no CB for me.

Has anyone gotten CB from discover for AP?

hightide Nov 9, 2013 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by crimson12 (Post 21756240)
So far I have been sending money every month (almost) as follows:

A>B.

I have not done A>B>A, given the obvious risk there.

Have people had success doing A>B>C>A? I saw the post above about A>B>C>D>A, but I don't think I can loop in four people...

Have been doing A>B>C>A no problem (from different computers in the same office).


Originally Posted by tonyflyer (Post 21756276)
Statement just posted, no CB for me.

Has anyone gotten CB from discover for AP?

Yes, I did get CB from discover for AP. If you sent AP within 6 days of your statement closing date, the CB will most likely appear on the next statement.

tonyflyer Nov 9, 2013 9:05 pm

My AP transaction was one day before the statement closing date, it was categorized as "Merchandise", I do hope the CB will post.

Thanks.


Originally Posted by hightide (Post 21756332)

Yes, I did get CB from discover for AP. If you sent AP within 6 days of your statement closing date, the CB will most likely appear on the next statement.


vfdfs2 Nov 10, 2013 3:44 pm

How many transactions allowed annual before amazon request IRS filing? Was it 75?

jamesteroh Nov 10, 2013 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by tonyflyer (Post 21757789)
My AP transaction was one day before the statement closing date, it was categorized as "Merchandise", I do hope the CB will post.

Thanks.

If it doesn't just call discover and they are great about doing adjustments (tell them you bought something online and paid for it via AmazonPayment.com online). Last year when they were doing the bonus for online purchases I had a bunch of year end charitable contributions to make. I did them on the charities websites and a few didn't post and I called Discover and the rep made the adjustment for me, they just didn't show up until my next statement.

AscorbylPalmitate Nov 11, 2013 1:58 am

worth reading



What Login and Pay with Amazon Means for the Payment Industry
Oct 21, 2013

It’s no secret that the line between payment and authentication providers has been progressively blurring with the rise of mobile, social and digital technologies.

Take Google, with its commerce venture, Google Wallet, a payments system that allows users to store various methods of payment and make secure payments via their mobile phones.

Authentication king Facebook also recently attempted to cross over into the payments realm with the ability to store and auto-fill users’ billing information.

Of course, this shift makes perfect sense: the brand that can create a pipeline for both identity and ecommerce will carve out a nice slice of market share for itself, capturing revenue through payment gateways while simultaneously building consumer trust.

Being able to track user identities and tie them directly to their purchase habits is an invaluable advantage for brands, allowing them to understand and convert consumers on an unprecedented level.

PayPal has clearly been the dominant player in the online payments game up to this point, allowing consumers on third-party sites to make payments via their existing PayPal accounts. PayPal was also the first to dip its toe in the payment/authentication water with Login with PayPal, which it introduced in 2011 and revamped earlier this year.

While some online payment upstarts have made noise in the past, most have either been acquired by the likes of PayPal/eBay (most recently Braintree), or simply haven’t gained enough traction to take on the payments giant.

Enter Amazon and its recently announced Login and Pay with Amazon offering. By combining the company’s authentication product with its website/application payments product, users can now login to websites using their Amazon credentials and checkout without needing to re-enter username and password – with credit card and shipping information pre-populated.

With these new features, Amazon has a huge opportunity to capture share of authentication and payments on ecommerce sites. The company’s positive brand perception as a trusted and reliable ecommerce platform is sure to prompt users to select Amazon as their login vehicle of choice, given the option. In fact, according to the 2013 Harris Poll, US consumers voted Amazon the most trusted company in America over the likes of Apple, Google and Disney (Source: The Daily Ticker).

By aligning their offerings with Amazon’s services and leveraging Login and Pay with Amazon, merchants could experience a significant boost in registrations and purchases. Amazon also has the infrastructure and proven ability to scale this new offering at a rapid clip.

Of course, the biggest advantage for Amazon is that, with such a large consumer-base, they already have over 215 million user records that include shipping, billing and credit card information. This level of pre-existing user information makes the barrier for entry for consumers extremely low.

Overall, the Login and Pay with Amazon offering could result in increased adoption of social login in general for brands, and heightened usage by consumers. Consumers have already shown a preference for social login, and logging into websites via Amazon and other existing identity providers like Facebook, Google and Twitter offers significant benefits for both businesses and consumers:

Faster, easier registration: Providing users with the ability to login via their existing social profiles makes registering for your website hassle free. New users don’t have to take the time to fill out their personal information, and returning customers don’t have to remember usernames and passwords. Making login more convenient results in more registrations and repeat logins; in fact, we’ve found that social login increases user registration rates by as much as 90%.

Reduction in shopping cart abandonment: 10% of consumers abandon their shopping carts because of lengthy check-out processes, and 29% dislike proprietary check-out forms (Source: Webcredible). Enabling users to login and pay with just a couple clicks, rather than having to fill out a detailed registration form, reduces points of friction and deters customers from jumping ship in the middle of the checkout process.

Permission-based access to user data: When consumers register for websites using their existing social identities, a dialogue box appears requesting permission to access specific data points within their social profiles. This approach to collecting consumer data boosts consumer trust and loyalty by increasing transparency and giving users control over the kinds of personal insights they share with brands.

Accurate cross-channel user profiles: While cookie data merely tracks user actions across desktop, login data ties consumer identities to a single, unique source, enabling marketers to create a single view of customer identities across channels and devices. Plus, consumers typically keep social profiles active for extended periods of time, and update them on a regular basis.

More relevant user experiences: With more complete pictures of consumers’ unique identities, brands can begin to create more relevant and personalized user experiences across channels. Customizing consumer touchpoints through location-based offers and tailored product recommendations, for example, makes customers feel valued, boosting loyalty, repeat conversions and long-term customer value.

Amazon is making substantial moves to own both identity and ecommerce and change the way brands and consumers connect. As social login becomes the new standard across the web, Amazon has an extraordinary opportunity to become a key player in the space.

With its army of consumers and depth of data, savvy e-tailers would be wise to consider implementing Login and Pay with Amazon.

ma91pmh Nov 11, 2013 7:47 am

My AP with Discover 5% posted fine yesterday

istroke Nov 11, 2013 8:54 am

so far anybody got their accounts deleted? i couldn't log into either accounts that send/receive money. tried forgot password, still wouldn't let me log in. all other accounts are fine.
i wonder what's going to happen to $1000 that i've sent and went through but didn't have a chance to withdraw? is it going to get refund to the credit card i've used to send?

AscorbylPalmitate Nov 11, 2013 10:27 am


Originally Posted by ma91pmh (Post 21764382)
My AP with Discover 5% posted fine yesterday


Originally Posted by tonyflyer (Post 21756276)
Statement just posted, no CB for me.

Has anyone gotten CB from discover for AP?

which Discover cards are you using? (e.g. Discover More, Discover Open Road, Discover It, etc)

also, do you have to proactively sign up for the 5% CB?

crimson12 Nov 11, 2013 10:58 am

I did not see this answered in the wiki above, so please don't jump down my throat if it has been!

I have business checking/credit card accounts, and personal as well. I have been sending money only through the personal. If I create a new Amazon account for my business, linked to the business checking, will that raise red flags or create any problems? (I have a legitimate separate business checking account, a business registered with the relevant authorities, etc.)

fromfall98 Nov 11, 2013 11:40 am


Originally Posted by crimson12 (Post 21765563)
I did not see this answered in the wiki above, so please don't jump down my throat if it has been!

I have business checking/credit card accounts, and personal as well. I have been sending money only through the personal. If I create a new Amazon account for my business, linked to the business checking, will that raise red flags or create any problems? (I have a legitimate separate business checking account, a business registered with the relevant authorities, etc.)

That should not be a problem at all.

Cheers!

rgar7 Nov 11, 2013 11:53 am


Originally Posted by crimson12 (Post 21765563)
I did not see this answered in the wiki above, so please don't jump down my throat if it has been!

I have business checking/credit card accounts, and personal as well. I have been sending money only through the personal. If I create a new Amazon account for my business, linked to the business checking, will that raise red flags or create any problems? (I have a legitimate separate business checking account, a business registered with the relevant authorities, etc.)

Same situation for me, but I can't see where to create a business account, only personal. It looks like it only accepts SSN, not EIN. If you find a link for business sign up will you post it for me?

crimson12 Nov 11, 2013 12:35 pm


Originally Posted by fromfall98 (Post 21765787)
That should not be a problem at all.

Cheers!

Do you put the EIN in the SSN field? It seems like the identity verification would then fail since presumably the name you use to apply would be checked against the "SSN"/EIN.

rgAAFT Nov 11, 2013 9:13 pm

ap+ ein
 

Originally Posted by crimson12 (Post 21766154)
Do you put the EIN in the SSN field? It seems like the identity verification would then fail since presumably the name you use to apply would be checked against the "SSN"/EIN.


Does not work!!!!! Tried doing this, worked for a while but then had my account with EIN shut down at the end of last year when they were validating accounts for tax purposes. I Tried calling customer service to get my account unblocked but no use. All frontline CSRs could do was send emails to upper management, upper management kept saying they could not verify my identity using EIN. Finally, I asked a CSR ; Based on my usage, am I even theoretically in danger of IRS reporting? They said no, and that if I needed a secondary account it would be easier to set one up in the name of a family member... Hope this helps.


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