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scented Mar 18, 2019 3:03 am


Originally Posted by FlyerEC (Post 30899603)




The rates are not really a surprise ..

Hopefully , now that GM Akira S is on board , there will be opening specials in the works .

Suites look somewhat similar to styles of Nemu & Tokyo .

I agree.

And aside from the rates it will be rather more interesting if they are able to deliver on Aman ethos, service and creating the magic. These rates do create expectation and quite necessary to balance the hard product.

Aventine Mar 18, 2019 6:31 am


Originally Posted by 5khours (Post 30899564)
Room photos are a bit of a bummer. Same overly-minimalist style as Aman Tokyo. Feels like you're inside a shiny wooden box.

There was never going to be Art Deco tiling or stone elephants like Rosewood Hong Kong. Fits the whole Zen Kyoto austere thing but I'm still not really a fan either.

Mickidon Mar 18, 2019 7:12 am


Originally Posted by 5khours (Post 30899564)
Room photos are a bit of a bummer. Same overly-minimalist style as Aman Tokyo. Feels like you're inside a shiny wooden box.

Totally agree. We stayed in a suite at the Aman Tokyo and all of the wood left the room with an aroma that was not particularly pleasant, in addition to looking monotonous.

callmedtop Mar 18, 2019 7:16 am

Rates in general appear to be much better than originally reported. I'm seeing a lot of dates with 110,000 JPY pricing which actually isn't outrageous. Across winter, spring, summer.

Aventine Mar 18, 2019 7:33 am


Originally Posted by Mickidon (Post 30900365)
Totally agree. We stayed in a suite at the Aman Tokyo and all of the wood left the room with an aroma that was not particularly pleasant, in addition to looking monotonous.

Means it wasn't natural hinoki wood or the shiny glazing left an odor behind?

Mickidon Mar 18, 2019 7:37 am


Originally Posted by Aventine (Post 30900446)
Means it wasn't natural hinoki wood or the shiny glazing left an odor behind?

Honestly don't know, but being surrounded by wood on all surfaces, not tempered by anything else, created an aroma that wasn't pleasant.

scented Mar 18, 2019 9:08 am

This type of the design works really well if the service is so warm and caring that it saves the atmosphere and adds to it. Sadly, in many instances at Aman Tokyo this is not the case.

chinmoylad Mar 18, 2019 10:08 am


Originally Posted by callmedtop (Post 30900378)
Rates in general appear to be much better than originally reported. I'm seeing a lot of dates with 110,000 JPY pricing which actually isn't outrageous. Across winter, spring, summer.

Those will be on the low scale - like Aman Tokyo and Amanemu they'll be shifting rates based on many factors, but primarily season and expected ocupancy levels. There's one date where the room jumps from JPY 110,000/night++ to JPY 220,000/night++.

Kagehitokiri Mar 18, 2019 11:34 am

110 > 320 60m2 aman 26 rooms
70 > 215 49-53m2 FS 140+ rooms
65 > 220 45m2 RC 134 rooms

kyoto from
110 [excluding nov]
120 may
165 apr
mar 20 > apr 19 blocked
2 of 4 room categories loaded
launched partly dynamic, no ratecard
expect prices to increase vs currently

nemu 'relatively' flat
from
110
125 oct nov
140 apr
and
110 room
370 2BR villa

tokyo from
100
120 jan mar
130 mar apr
150 nov
200 oct

edit >

kyoto partial opening?

susuki (110 dec 15-18)
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...24b3325eda.png

nara
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ebf773a6f4.png

Rusdude Mar 18, 2019 9:29 pm

In case anyone’s curious, looks like there are 2-night minimums when checking in on Fridays or Saturdays in November (I had asked about one night on November 22-23).

Below is a reply from a reservations executive:



Please allow us to inform you that minimum length of stay 2 nights is required upon checking -in on Friday & Saturday in November.
Please kindly find the room availability & rates as follows;
22nd November 2019 -1 night
Susuki 200,000 JPY per night per stay
Nara 210,000 JPY per night per stay
Kaede 220,000 JPY per night per stay
Hotaru 240,000 JPY per night per stay

23rd November 2019 - 1night
Susuki 320,000 JPY per night per stay
Nara 330,000 JPY per night per stay
Kaede 340,000 JPY per night per stay
Hotaru 360,000 JPY per night per stay

Additional charges;
* Rates are on room only basis
* Rates are in JPY, per night and based on single or double occupancy.
* Rates are subject to 15% Service Charge, 10% Government Tax & Kyoto Accommodation Tax of JPY 1,000 per person per night
* Rates and government taxes are subject to change without notice

Deposit & Cancelation policy;
High Season
Credit Card details required to guarantee the booking.
No charge for cancellation by 3pm 14 days prior to arrival, otherwise full stay amount and tax will apply.


5khours Mar 19, 2019 2:24 am


Originally Posted by Aventine (Post 30900231)
There was never going to be Art Deco tiling or stone elephants like Rosewood Hong Kong. Fits the whole Zen Kyoto austere thing but I'm still not really a fan either.

To me it's not Zen. It's kind of anti-Zen.

Aventine Mar 19, 2019 3:00 am


Originally Posted by Rusdude (Post 30903578)
In case anyone’s curious, looks like there are 2-night minimums when checking in on Fridays or Saturdays in November (I had asked about one night on November 22-23).

Below is a reply from a reservations executive:


A $4500 minimum to be there on weekends. They certainly don't lack confidence.

Kagehitokiri Mar 19, 2019 1:07 pm

[2BR villa] Washigamine Pavilion...Surrounded by nature in the highest and most secluded area of the resort, the east-facing pavilion pays homage to the traditional Japanese Ryokan inn and looks over the entire garden and the Kamigame mountain range in the distance. A trekking path leads directly from the pavilion through the surrounding forest and various private meditation gardens can be found nearby.

sounds good

kaede added reservations link but not loaded yet
anyone heard if theyre planning partial opening?

min stay shows on calendar. i got images above by doing min stay during min stay period, then going back to calendar.

110 dec 15,16

Kagehitokiri Mar 20, 2019 4:37 pm

update
nov 11 12 14
dec 9 > 19
are not as high, both rooms >https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4ec2fe9bb6.png

vuittonsofstyle Mar 21, 2019 8:27 am

I expected standalone pavilions & villas here, so was surprised that the hotel consisted of 2-storey blocks!


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