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26 rooms = buyouts (some dont even stay night)
images are not ultra luxury resort villas, with pools and neither are aman beijing and tokyo (or wana) some may prefer aman kyoto to amanemu much smaller size vs tokyo, fewer nonguests
Originally Posted by FlyerEC
(Post 30754260)
end October rates at RC Kyoto
suiran rates dont vary much, but smaller m2 sizes 26 room perfect for kyoto, insane rates and not empty note how extreme rate low vs high is at FS and RC its fairly similar to maldives low / rainy vs holidays |
Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
(Post 30758150)
much smaller size vs tokyo, fewer nonguests
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compare number of seats/covers
toyko - lobby plus 3 restaurants kyoto - arrival, living, dining, spa buildings kyoto resort map may be interesting, 8 acres gardens, 72 acres forest nemu only 2 buildings, 3 sets of rooms may be more private than villas nemu pretty compressed footprint, googlemaps satellite now has image what did people here want aman to do in kyoto? if aman kyoto could occupy any land (or building) what would have been ideal? aren't beijing, shanghai, kyoto examples of 'different' ways aman can do cities? |
aman website
Restaurant in the Dining Pavilion will be a landmark addition to one of Japan’s most celebrated gastronomical regions. Showcasing the unique culinary tradition of Japanese haute cuisine, multi-course dining experiences Living Pavilion with its central fireplace and glass doors opening onto an ornate garden terrace will be no less inspired. Serving home-cooked Kyoto obanzai style cuisine throughout the day, guests can also enjoy afternoon tea and reserve bamboo picnic hampers garden spaces dotted around Aman Kyoto are perfect for outdoor events – from small private dinners owner of aman moiwa niseko acquired equity in aman kyoto both extremely long in development as well as kerry hill cladglobal.com/CLADnews/architecture-design/Traditional-onsens-to-deliver-healing-at-upcoming-Aman-Kyoto/340706 Aman Kyoto is owned by the Chartered Group Residences at Aman Kyoto in 2020 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hiAzUrlDrhUJ:https://issuu.com/mondiale/docs/sleeper72&strip=1&vwsrc=0 MAY | JUNE 2017 Amankora in Bhutan, where Hill personally selected the five lodges sites...took some 15 years. Secondly, a resort in Kyoto, originally touted as the Amaniwa. Hill was first introduced to the site one snowy January morning and recommended it to Zecha who visited the following week. Only 20 years later has construction commenced. A frequent visitor to Japan since 1975, Hill Impressed by his work, Zecha – who was just starting out with Regent Hotels at the time – pushed a few projects his way. Hill describes him as a patron and good friend; only a narrow lane separates the gardens of their homes in Singapore.
Originally Posted by A380 Flyer
(Post 30753920)
onsen
8+72 private acres, vs adjacent public park at suiran robbreport.com/travel/resorts/aman-kyoto-third-japan-resort-opening-november-2840677 two-bedroom villas starting[?] at 2,400 square feet 245m2 2BR FS presidential 212m2 1BR ritz carlton suite "over two decades in the making" is owner quoted in press |
In case anyone’s curious, it looks like Aman Tokyo will be handling reservations for Aman Kyoto for now. At the moment, though, they don’t have any info on rates or when reservations will open. |
Still no updates on the rates or when reservations will commence... |
Trying book a client for December and got the below info...
Aman Kyoto is scheduled to open on 01 November and should start taking reservation at mid or end of March :) |
Originally Posted by Rusdude
(Post 30850935)
Still no updates on the rates or when reservations will commence... Example - separate, but related, Amanoi has a new 2-bedroom residence that is open for reservations, but it's not loaded into the online platform/system yet. |
Originally Posted by BESVISOR
(Post 30853919)
Trying book a client for December and got the below info...
Aman Kyoto is scheduled to open on 01 November and should start taking reservation at mid or end of March :) |
Originally Posted by Aventine
(Post 30854350)
They are going to just be printing money from opening!
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Originally Posted by BESVISOR
(Post 30854420)
Imagine being RC...3 years ago, you were the top game in town and now, FS and Aman both in the arena.
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Originally Posted by BESVISOR
(Post 30854420)
Imagine being RC...3 years ago, you were the top game in town and now, FS and Aman both in the arena.
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Originally Posted by Aventine
(Post 30854350)
They are going to just be printing money from opening!
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Originally Posted by offerendum
(Post 30854902)
This happens. If the product is good enough everyone may come and you still are the top game. There is no rule that an Aman must be better than a RC. BUT I think they have in wide parts different target-Groups. Many who stay at a RC won´t stay at an Aman. Guess more overlaps with FS as there isn´t a program like Bonvoy but still some different kind of guests.
Hyatt Regency Kyoto should be afraid of all of the new competition. Their hardware and facilities were inadequate before RC arrived and now they're hopelessly behind in the luxury game. |
I'm not a fan of the location of the Aman - the RC is exactly where I want to be, based what we like to do in Kyoto, and we really like the hotel. That said, I agree that it will mint money, as a certain demographic of visitor will pick the Aman anywhere as a knee jerk reaction. I used to sort of be that person but was underwhelmed by Tokyo at the price and was disappointed in a second visit report at Amanpulo and it is no longer my default. This might work in our favor, as availability and pricing at the RC might become
more appealing. |
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