Which Hotel in Bangkok? (Consolidated thread, started 2016)
#301
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Thanks everyone - the comments about the Pen pool seal the deal and was exactly the feedback I was looking for. The StR location is a plus as we do have friends staying there while we are in town, but I'm happy to sit in traffic or take the BTS to meet up with them, and enjoy the Pen during the day for some R&R.
#302
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: BKK
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Thanks everyone - the comments about the Pen pool seal the deal and was exactly the feedback I was looking for. The StR location is a plus as we do have friends staying there while we are in town, but I'm happy to sit in traffic or take the BTS to meet up with them, and enjoy the Pen during the day for some R&R.
You’ll love the pool and public areas at the Peninsula. The spa is gorgeous too.
#303
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,218
Just curious, but what did you mean earlier in the thread when you mentioned negotiating for a suite at the Pen?
#304
formerly known as deathscar
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We have 4 nights in BKK in March before a prior commitment with friends in Ko Samui, and debating between the StR, Pen, and COMO Metropolitan. We're first-time visitors, but will be coming off a rather stressful period of work so would like to focus on 1. R&R by a pool, 2. eating (either at hotel or nearby), and 3. some first-time BKK tourism (in that order). We have SPG Platinum status and a killer corporate rate which makes the StR tempting, but it seems like a soulless business property. COMO intrigues me for reasons I am not quite sure of.
We are primarily looking for beautiful pool/common areas for us to relax at, in between eating and doing the touristy things. Leaning towards the Pen at this point. MO BKK and Siam are unfortunately out of our price range for this particular trip.
We are primarily looking for beautiful pool/common areas for us to relax at, in between eating and doing the touristy things. Leaning towards the Pen at this point. MO BKK and Siam are unfortunately out of our price range for this particular trip.
#305
Rosewood Bangkok has appointed their GM. I'm not at liberty to mention names but would expect a press release by end-April.
#306
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Am now in Hong Kong after a great four night stay at the Peninsula Bangkok. I was a bit apprehensive given what has been written about the property in recent years, but I was impressed (perhaps a function of lowered expectations!). A few thoughts, in no particular order:
We also dined at Nahm, and it goes down as my most disappointing fine dining experience of my life. The chef refuses to modify spice levels of his dishes, which is fine, but made the food completely and totally unenjoyable for me. My fiancee, who handles spice much better, found the food inedible not because of spice, but because of salt. By far some of the most overly-salted dishes I've encountered. Some of the less-spicy dishes which I could eat without crying were simply underwhelming in flavor. Service was adequate, but not to Michelin standards. As to how this was rated so highly by Pellegrino/Michelin is a true mind-bender.
Great trip to Bangkok and I look forward to our return in the future. We will either return to the Peninsula or try the Siam, though I see less of a draw to the Siam after our excellent stay at the Pen (especially given their extremely competitive rates!).
- Airport pick-up was seamless and highly recommended - I'm not a big advocate for over-paying for hotel pickup but in BKK it is nice to easily walk from the airport to in-room check-in
- We were not upgraded from our booked Grand Deluxe room, which was fine, though I didn't appreciate the woman checking me in lying and saying that the hotel was fully booked (it was not); I don't believe that Deluxe categories are eligible for complementary upgrades, so no harm done
- The room itself is certainly in an older style, but did not feel overly dated. We enjoyed the highly functional technology/automation - I think the panel with manual buttons to control lighting/shades is much better than the overly-complex touch screen solutions, and this is coming from a tech-oriented millenial
- Breakfast was a bit of a madhouse, and nothing ruins a luxury experience like waiting in a line for 5-10 minutes to be seated at breakfast; once seated, breakfast service, selection, and quality was excellent
- We dined at Thiptara which was spectacular, both in service, quality, and ambiance - highly recommended
- Every night we had drinks at the bar by the river, which was a highlight of our stay. Very much enjoyed the environment and drinks. One night there was a bit of a service snafu which left me annoyed, but otherwise service was excellent
- We spent a few hours at the pool everyday and I was extremely impressed. Excellent service, great cabanas that were almost always available (thanks to the 30-minute rule), and fantastic environment. Drink/food service was very efficient and quite tasty
- I had a Thai massage at the Spa and found the experience extraordinary. I know the MO Spa is supposed to be the absolute best, but we really enjoyed our time here. My fiancee had a facial and had only positive things to say.
- The location was far better than I was expecting, though as a first-time visitor to Bangkok I may not be the best person to judge this
We also dined at Nahm, and it goes down as my most disappointing fine dining experience of my life. The chef refuses to modify spice levels of his dishes, which is fine, but made the food completely and totally unenjoyable for me. My fiancee, who handles spice much better, found the food inedible not because of spice, but because of salt. By far some of the most overly-salted dishes I've encountered. Some of the less-spicy dishes which I could eat without crying were simply underwhelming in flavor. Service was adequate, but not to Michelin standards. As to how this was rated so highly by Pellegrino/Michelin is a true mind-bender.
Great trip to Bangkok and I look forward to our return in the future. We will either return to the Peninsula or try the Siam, though I see less of a draw to the Siam after our excellent stay at the Pen (especially given their extremely competitive rates!).
#307
Am now in Hong Kong after a great four night stay at the Peninsula Bangkok. I was a bit apprehensive given what has been written about the property in recent years, but I was impressed (perhaps a function of lowered expectations!). A few thoughts, in no particular order:
We also dined at Nahm, and it goes down as my most disappointing fine dining experience of my life. The chef refuses to modify spice levels of his dishes, which is fine, but made the food completely and totally unenjoyable for me. My fiancee, who handles spice much better, found the food inedible not because of spice, but because of salt. By far some of the most overly-salted dishes I've encountered. Some of the less-spicy dishes which I could eat without crying were simply underwhelming in flavor. Service was adequate, but not to Michelin standards. As to how this was rated so highly by Pellegrino/Michelin is a true mind-bender.
Great trip to Bangkok and I look forward to our return in the future. We will either return to the Peninsula or try the Siam, though I see less of a draw to the Siam after our excellent stay at the Pen (especially given their extremely competitive rates!).
- Airport pick-up was seamless and highly recommended - I'm not a big advocate for over-paying for hotel pickup but in BKK it is nice to easily walk from the airport to in-room check-in
- We were not upgraded from our booked Grand Deluxe room, which was fine, though I didn't appreciate the woman checking me in lying and saying that the hotel was fully booked (it was not); I don't believe that Deluxe categories are eligible for complementary upgrades, so no harm done
- The room itself is certainly in an older style, but did not feel overly dated. We enjoyed the highly functional technology/automation - I think the panel with manual buttons to control lighting/shades is much better than the overly-complex touch screen solutions, and this is coming from a tech-oriented millenial
- Breakfast was a bit of a madhouse, and nothing ruins a luxury experience like waiting in a line for 5-10 minutes to be seated at breakfast; once seated, breakfast service, selection, and quality was excellent
- We dined at Thiptara which was spectacular, both in service, quality, and ambiance - highly recommended
- Every night we had drinks at the bar by the river, which was a highlight of our stay. Very much enjoyed the environment and drinks. One night there was a bit of a service snafu which left me annoyed, but otherwise service was excellent
- We spent a few hours at the pool everyday and I was extremely impressed. Excellent service, great cabanas that were almost always available (thanks to the 30-minute rule), and fantastic environment. Drink/food service was very efficient and quite tasty
- I had a Thai massage at the Spa and found the experience extraordinary. I know the MO Spa is supposed to be the absolute best, but we really enjoyed our time here. My fiancee had a facial and had only positive things to say.
- The location was far better than I was expecting, though as a first-time visitor to Bangkok I may not be the best person to judge this
We also dined at Nahm, and it goes down as my most disappointing fine dining experience of my life. The chef refuses to modify spice levels of his dishes, which is fine, but made the food completely and totally unenjoyable for me. My fiancee, who handles spice much better, found the food inedible not because of spice, but because of salt. By far some of the most overly-salted dishes I've encountered. Some of the less-spicy dishes which I could eat without crying were simply underwhelming in flavor. Service was adequate, but not to Michelin standards. As to how this was rated so highly by Pellegrino/Michelin is a true mind-bender.
Great trip to Bangkok and I look forward to our return in the future. We will either return to the Peninsula or try the Siam, though I see less of a draw to the Siam after our excellent stay at the Pen (especially given their extremely competitive rates!).
#308
formerly known as deathscar
Join Date: Jul 2007
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We also dined at Nahm, and it goes down as my most disappointing fine dining experience of my life. The chef refuses to modify spice levels of his dishes, which is fine, but made the food completely and totally unenjoyable for me. My fiancee, who handles spice much better, found the food inedible not because of spice, but because of salt. By far some of the most overly-salted dishes I've encountered. Some of the less-spicy dishes which I could eat without crying were simply underwhelming in flavor. Service was adequate, but not to Michelin standards. As to how this was rated so highly by Pellegrino/Michelin is a true mind-bender.
#309
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: BKK
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They often have very good suite rates, in which case it makes more sense just to confirm a suite. The upsell option is more attractive in situations when there is a large difference in rate between categories.
#310
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,548
Agreed 100% about NAHM. Felt the same way on 2 occasions. Never again.
Even though I have yet to try Park Hyatt (have been putting it off reading about temperature and street noise), I very much look forward to the opening of Waldorf-Astoria, Edition and Rosewood.
#311
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: BKK
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The new hotels are all of course nice, and the city is increasingly full of them. However, most of them lack the truly special locations, design, and character of the best hotels.
Rosewoood should be worth a try. 137 Pillars is also, in my opinion, much more interesting than the new chain properties from Hyatt, Hilton, Marriott, etc...
#312
formerly known as deathscar
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Edition should be interesting too.
#313
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: BKK
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It’s still a new property, so eventually I suspect rates will fall into equilibrium. That has been the case at all of the other newly opened hotels.
#314
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,218
Negotiated upsell upon arrival. As with many hotels in the world, if there is availability upon check-in, you can ask about upgrading to a suite at a bit of a discount.
They often have very good suite rates, in which case it makes more sense just to confirm a suite. The upsell option is more attractive in situations when there is a large difference in rate between categories.
#315
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: BKK
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The negotiation gets fun when there is a large rate difference between categories. E.g. room to suite, or standard suites to signature suites. At many hotels there is room for negotiation, and the ever increasing number of hotels here works in one’s favor — there is always competitive pressure and there are plenty of competing offers to have matched.