Allegris: New Cabin for the LH Group in 2023-25 (LX A330 LH A359/B748/B789)
Dec 18, 2023, 3:13 pm
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JAL shows what's possible if you're not trying to over-engineer things...
https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2023/1...thetics-space/
https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2023/1...thetics-space/
Dec 19, 2023, 2:26 am
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And the JL A350 was delayed by how many months? (In spite of using Airbus' inhouse seat supplier Safran) 
The cabins are very impressive in their design throughout, and — despite months of delays largely caused, JAL executives tell Runway Girl Network, by delays at Safran Seats and their supply chain — are mostly in a decent production quality, despite some fit and finish issues including scratch wear with polystone material used on the tray table, and some misaligned intersections between large part subassemblies.
Dec 19, 2023, 2:30 am
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Plus the result is something that can be defined as a premium product
Jan 15, 2024, 9:17 am
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Looks like a timeline is finally coming together per blogger OMAAT
- Lufthansas new Allegris business class should launch on newly delivered Airbus A350-900s out of Munich in May 2024
- Lufthansas new Allegris business class should next launch on newly delivered Boeing 787-9s out of Frankfurt as of July 2024
- Lufthansas new Allegris first class should launch on newly delivered Airbus A350-900s out of Munich as of September 2024
Jan 15, 2024, 9:22 am
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Looks like a timeline is finally coming together per blogger OMAAT
Who gets old F or Allegris or old J or Allegris, & for how long will that Pantomime last
Jan 16, 2024, 4:34 am
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One very bad example that they hopefully don't follow would be the snail-like implementation of Polaris across all applicable planes over at UA.
Jan 16, 2024, 5:35 am
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According to https://www.aerotelegraph.com/luftha...kt-nach-teruel
its going extremely..errr.well!
1st and 2nd A350 that was supposed to be outfitted with Allegris sent directly to Spanish desert instead of FRA or MUC because the consortium of seat suppliers is facing delivery issues..
Maybe well be lucky and theyll keep doing this until they re-do the concept and simplify it.
its going extremely..errr.well!
1st and 2nd A350 that was supposed to be outfitted with Allegris sent directly to Spanish desert instead of FRA or MUC because the consortium of seat suppliers is facing delivery issues..
Maybe well be lucky and theyll keep doing this until they re-do the concept and simplify it.
Jan 16, 2024, 5:39 am
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The current concept has been submitted to EASA and FAA for the A359/B789 in Q3 and is still pending approval. The seats will be fitted as per the approval once the STC is granted.
Jan 16, 2024, 5:56 am
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Doch Lufthansas Sitzlieferanten an Allegris arbeiten Collins,Recaro, Stelia, Thompson und Zim Aircraft Seating sowie als Designer Pearson Lloyd und Priestman Goode mit haben mitunter Lieferschwierigkeiten. Und deshalb wurde der fabrikneue A350 im Dezember von Lufthansa vom Airbus-Werk in Toulouse nicht nach Frankfurt oder Mnchen geflogen, sondern nach Teruel in Spanien. Und jetzt ist der D-AIXR ein zweiter A350 gefolgt.
But Lufthansa's seat suppliers - Collins, Recaro, Stelia, Thompson and Zim Aircraft Seating work on Allegris, as well as Pearson Lloyd and Priestman Goode as designers - have delivery problems. And that is why the brand-new A350 was flown by Lufthansa in December from the Airbus factory in Toulouse not to Frankfurt or Munich, but to Teruel in Spain. And now the D-AIXR has been followed by a second A350.
Jan 16, 2024, 6:18 am
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Maybe they have a different source, I'm just repeating what I heard in the call with the head of the Allegris Project on November 13.
Jan 16, 2024, 6:53 am
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That begs the question whether it is customary to announce a new seating concept before having obtained required approvals/certifications.
Jan 16, 2024, 8:37 am
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Each aircraft type needs a STC from the regulator before the new cabin is installed. Previously such STC were issued in weeks, now it takes months. The STC can only be applied for after one line or retrofit is done in one aircraft. This has been done on D-ABPF and D-AIXR and now the approval is pending. The same procedure is followed by all seat/cabin/aircraft manufacturers.
Jan 16, 2024, 10:05 am
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Each aircraft type needs a STC from the regulator before the new cabin is installed. Previously such STC were issued in weeks, now it takes months. The STC can only be applied for after one line or retrofit is done in one aircraft. This has been done on D-ABPF and D-AIXR and now the approval is pending. The same procedure is followed by all seat/cabin/aircraft manufacturers.
Jan 16, 2024, 10:53 am
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Each aircraft type needs a STC from the regulator before the new cabin is installed. Previously such STC were issued in weeks, now it takes months. The STC can only be applied for after one line or retrofit is done in one aircraft. This has been done on D-ABPF and D-AIXR and now the approval is pending. The same procedure is followed by all seat/cabin/aircraft manufacturers.