Allegris: New Cabin for the LH Group in 2023-25 (LX A330 LH A359/B748/B789)
Dec 9, 2015, 4:37 pm
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Allegris: New Cabin for the LH Group in 2023-25 (LX A330 LH A359/B748/B789)
Lufthansa will introduce an all-new business class seat with the launch of its Boeing 777-9 in 2020, with the same seat also being rolled out on the Swiss and Austrian Airlines fleets.
The move towards a unified business class design across all three sibling airlines is intended to both lower costs and provide a more consistent passenger experience, especially on codeshare flights.
"We're starting to design it now" Lufthansa Chairman and CEO Carsten Spohr told Australian Business Traveller at this week's meeting of Star Alliance airlines in Chicago.
The move towards a unified business class design across all three sibling airlines is intended to both lower costs and provide a more consistent passenger experience, especially on codeshare flights.
"We're starting to design it now" Lufthansa Chairman and CEO Carsten Spohr told Australian Business Traveller at this week's meeting of Star Alliance airlines in Chicago.
Dec 10, 2015, 11:58 am
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New J Seats for the Group
Reported here. Apologies if someone has already posted: I didn't see.
I've always found it surprising that LH's J seats were a generation behind the other three.
I've always found it surprising that LH's J seats were a generation behind the other three.
Dec 10, 2015, 4:43 pm
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Reported here. Apologies if someone has already posted: I didn't see.
Dec 10, 2015, 4:44 pm
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What he meant was that it will be the same seat but might look a bit different between LH and LX for example due to different fabrics and finishes.
Dec 10, 2015, 9:59 pm
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I hope they will come up with something good and not (again) almost obsolete when they introduce it.
Standard today is aisle access from every seat, good privacy and enough storage space/compartments. It looks like the seat CX has installed (and many others like AA etc) would be the minimum requirement.
Standard today is aisle access from every seat, good privacy and enough storage space/compartments. It looks like the seat CX has installed (and many others like AA etc) would be the minimum requirement.
Dec 10, 2015, 10:19 pm
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The 777-9 will be too wide for the current B/E Diamond LH currently uses, unless they go for the 2-3-2 config they currently have on the 744 main deck
Considering the 777-9 will arrive with LH sometime in 2020-22, it sounds about right: the current seat will be 8-10 years old and written off. IAG also announced that they will have common widebody cabins across Aer Lingus, Iberia and BA, so this is a bit of a me-too.
Considering the 777-9 will arrive with LH sometime in 2020-22, it sounds about right: the current seat will be 8-10 years old and written off. IAG also announced that they will have common widebody cabins across Aer Lingus, Iberia and BA, so this is a bit of a me-too.
Dec 12, 2015, 8:57 pm
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I quite like Swiss business class so hope the new unified business class seat draws from that.
Dec 13, 2015, 4:43 am
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Thanks. It's good to hear how the story originated. If this actually happens in five years' time we'll know where we read it first!
Dec 13, 2015, 7:31 pm
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So, I'm guessing it will take 4-5 years to get the seats fleetwide? So we're really talking about something that will happen over the next decade? 
Dec 13, 2015, 11:31 pm
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I don't know why anyone would have expected a new J product here when they literally just completed the fleetwide roll-out of their 'new' J.
That product is not fantastic but it's also no worse than Club World on BA or the WBC on most planes with KLM or the variety of sucky seats on the majority of AF's fleet. I think if all of those competitors had a much better product with aisle access across the board, LH would follow suit but for now they have an excuse as to why not.
That product is not fantastic but it's also no worse than Club World on BA or the WBC on most planes with KLM or the variety of sucky seats on the majority of AF's fleet. I think if all of those competitors had a much better product with aisle access across the board, LH would follow suit but for now they have an excuse as to why not.