quaxpilot

Yes, but at least you have a consistent product on LH.
Not like with AF where you have NEV3, NEV4 and BEST (which I really like) and whatever version, where you just can pray that they don't have a last-minute equipment change...

JC Gold

Hopefully there's a tray or pull out for the laptop. Can't imagine working with just a side table like that.

mevr

Lufthansa's "new" is usually an outdated design by the time it's implemented, this is no different. Thanks, but... whatever.
Also, not enough shades of grey:


LH Business Class 2020

Lack

Looks decent. Wonder if they'll implement the ASR charges for the thrones.

What makes you think this will be any different? During a couple year retrofit phase it's still going to be the same lottery.

WorldLux

I like the colours. More subtle than the fake wood and gold you'll find on EK. I do however wonder why they bother with such a complex layout. Couldn't they just fit 1-2-1 reverse herringbone and be done with it?

^ Whenever there's a product change there's going to be a sub-fleet with the new product and one with the old one.

MichielR

They missed the opportunity with the A359, which is a real shame. Why wait?

That said, it will be a great improvement for LH, with which they will barely catch up with the competition. They are a generation behind, essentially.

ACflyerDE

And have been for the last 30 years or so. Yet, a lot of their long haul flights are full so they might not really see the need to be an industry leader when it comes to seating.

Kacee

The window rows look very similar to UA's Polaris seat. I'm surprised though by the thrones in the middle, that seems very space inefficient in a 777 cabin. Also means there will be no good pairs for couples.

RG1X

That was my first thought too. I'm pretty flexible, but I don't think my spine would appreciate it.

vantage03

Whilst not world-leading this looks pretty impressive for LH Business. 1-1-1 rows in particular. I would have expected 1-2-1 across all rows from LH.

mevr

+1, sadly. Even LH's minion airlines (Austrian, SWISS) already offer a better Business product than what LH will add 3-8 years from now. LH lounges are the most boring lounges I've ever been to, and this new design reflects exactly that experience: grey, dull, outdated. I've been to Clinics with a better ambiance...

Agremeister

Similar, but not the same. United use Zodiac's Optima seats which are actually 1-2-1 on the 777, while this looks to me like the Recaro CL6710, which as you can see in the picture alternate 1-2-1 and 1-1-1. The good news is that the Recaro seat is significantly larger than the Zodiac Optima, and I think is even larger than normal 1-2-1 reverse herringbone.

Here's the United seat for comparison:






As you can see, the rows are significantly closer together on the United seat vs. the rendering of the LH seat, and there are no "throne" middle seats.

More info on the LH seat here: https://en.recaro-as.com/aircraft-se...ss/cl6710.html

worldclubber

Sure there will be a pull-out table, as people would also not want to eat like that. Nothing to worry about.

JC Gold

The link on the Recaro site does show a picture with the tray table out. although can't tell where it pops out from. Looks like a winner to me ,although somewhere it said it will replace the current business seat on Swiss which might be a disappointment for some.

worldclubber

Don't worry about the colors, this rendering of the seat configuration probably tells us very little about the actual color scheme in 2020. There will definitely be some yellow somewhere to brighten things up. Your statement reminded me of a 1990s tire ad of a German brand (Continental) in the UK: The billboards read "Dull, grey, and reliable. Just what you expect from a German." Maybe that's what people expect/like and why LH's C cabin seems to sell well, as it's usually full when I fly in it.

Concerning the lounges: There are terrible LH lounges, such as the one at CDG, and good ones with decent amenities, bright daylight and interesting views, such as the new lounges at MUC. "most boring lounges" you have been to, as a general verdict, can only mean that you have not been to too many lounges...