Determining LH Y/E/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]
Aug 23, 2017, 4:22 am
#1501
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lh 726
muc 09/04/17 10:15 pm
pvg 09/05/17 3:15 pm
346
f3 a0 j9 c9 d4 z0 p0 g6 e3 n0 y9 b9 m9 u8 h6 q5 v0 w0 s0 t0 l0 k0
lh 733
pvg 09/07/17 11:50 pm
fra 09/08/17 5:25 am
744
j9 c0 d0 z0 p0 g8 e0 n0 y9 b9 m9 u0 h0 q0 v0 w0 s0 t0 l0 k0
lh 727
pvg 09/07/17 11:35 pm
muc 09/08/17 5:30 am
346
f3 a0 j9 c0 d0 z0 p0 g5 e0 n0 y9 b9 m9 u0 h0 q0 v0 w0 s0 t0 l0 k0
muc 09/04/17 10:15 pm
pvg 09/05/17 3:15 pm
346
f3 a0 j9 c9 d4 z0 p0 g6 e3 n0 y9 b9 m9 u8 h6 q5 v0 w0 s0 t0 l0 k0
lh 733
pvg 09/07/17 11:50 pm
fra 09/08/17 5:25 am
744
j9 c0 d0 z0 p0 g8 e0 n0 y9 b9 m9 u0 h0 q0 v0 w0 s0 t0 l0 k0
lh 727
pvg 09/07/17 11:35 pm
muc 09/08/17 5:30 am
346
f3 a0 j9 c0 d0 z0 p0 g5 e0 n0 y9 b9 m9 u0 h0 q0 v0 w0 s0 t0 l0 k0
can I asume that on all fligjts Y+ and C are already overbooked? Maybe someone has more experience than me and give a wild guess...
Aug 25, 2017, 5:25 am
#1502
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Is this a possible Y oversale situation? *G on W fare, any chances of op-up to PE?
LH (CL) 591 343
NBO 09/13/17 10:15 PM
FRA 09/14/17 5:40 AM
J5 C5 D5 Z4 P4 G9 E9 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q2 V2 W2 S2 T2 L2 K2
LH (CL) 591 343
NBO 09/13/17 10:15 PM
FRA 09/14/17 5:40 AM
J5 C5 D5 Z4 P4 G9 E9 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q2 V2 W2 S2 T2 L2 K2
Aug 25, 2017, 6:45 am
#1503
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Your flight is in 20 days. Therefore hard to say. But as K is still open, I would assume Y is not oversold at all, as of today => low chances of an op-up even with status.
Aug 25, 2017, 7:18 am
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Business much more open HKG-FRA (though still poor chance for an upgrade IMO if you're looking for one), first more open HKG-MUC.
LH 797 388 HKG 09/07/17 11:05 PM FRA 09/08/17 5:20 AM
F4 A2 J9 C9 D0 Z0 P0 G7 E3 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0
LH 731 346 HKG 09/07/17 11:15 PM MUC 09/08/17 5:25 AM
F5 A5 J2 C0 D0 Z0 P0 G9 E6 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T8 L0 K0
LH 797 388 HKG 09/07/17 11:05 PM FRA 09/08/17 5:20 AM
F4 A2 J9 C9 D0 Z0 P0 G7 E3 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0
LH 731 346 HKG 09/07/17 11:15 PM MUC 09/08/17 5:25 AM
F5 A5 J2 C0 D0 Z0 P0 G9 E6 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T8 L0 K0
Aug 25, 2017, 7:20 am
#1506
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Here you go:
f4 a2 j9 c9 d0 z0 p0 g7 e3 n0 y9 b9 m9 u9 h9 q9 v9 w9 s9 t9 l9 k0
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F5 A5 J2 C0 D0 Z0 P0 G9 E6 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T8 L0 K0
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F5 A5 J2 C0 D0 Z0 P0 G9 E6 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T8 L0 K0
Aug 25, 2017, 7:52 am
#1507
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But way to early to tell anything. You need to check-in T-1 or T-0 (the day prior to dep. or on day of departure) to get a more reliable picture.
LH722 (Sept 16) and LH 797 (Oct 2)
Sep 5, 2017, 3:15 pm
#1511
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LH 722 MUC 09/16/17 7:15 PM PEK 09/17/17 10:55 AM 346 Daily
F3 A3 J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 G1 E0 N0 Y8 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH 797 HKG 10/02/17 11:05 PM FRA 10/03/17 5:20 AM 388 Daily
F3 A2 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P8 G9 E9 N9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T3 L0 K0
Sep 6, 2017, 5:47 am
#1512
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LH 429 CLT 10/20/17 6:30 PM MUC 10/21/17 9:30 AM 333 Daily
J9 C9 D9 Z0 P0 G9 E3 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L8 K9
LH 688 MUC 10/21/17 12:05 PM TLV 10/21/17 4:40 PM 321 Su,M,W,Th,Sa
J9 C6 D5 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H8 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH 681 TLV 10/30/17 7:00 AM MUC 10/30/17 10:10 AM 321 M,Th,F,Sa
J8 C6 D3 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH 428 MUC 10/30/17 12:05 PM CLT 10/30/17 5:40 PM 333 Daily
J9 C9 D9 Z0 P0 G9 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
Premium Economy booking classes are G,E,N (more expensive to cheaper) and Business booking classes are J,C,D,Z,P (more expensive to cheaper). The numbers are the number of seats LH is still selling in each class where 9 means 9 or more.
I'm afraid I cannot answer your question about how much to bid for PE or BC. May I suggest you check the following thread?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lufth...rade-pe-c.html
and this LH page about myOffer upgrades?
https://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/myoffer#FAQ
There is no Premium Economy for MUC-TLV-MUC and it's not worth upgrading to Business since you will get the same seat (with the seat next to you kept free).
J9 C9 D9 Z0 P0 G9 E3 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L8 K9
LH 688 MUC 10/21/17 12:05 PM TLV 10/21/17 4:40 PM 321 Su,M,W,Th,Sa
J9 C6 D5 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H8 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH 681 TLV 10/30/17 7:00 AM MUC 10/30/17 10:10 AM 321 M,Th,F,Sa
J8 C6 D3 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH 428 MUC 10/30/17 12:05 PM CLT 10/30/17 5:40 PM 333 Daily
J9 C9 D9 Z0 P0 G9 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
Premium Economy booking classes are G,E,N (more expensive to cheaper) and Business booking classes are J,C,D,Z,P (more expensive to cheaper). The numbers are the number of seats LH is still selling in each class where 9 means 9 or more.
I'm afraid I cannot answer your question about how much to bid for PE or BC. May I suggest you check the following thread?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lufth...rade-pe-c.html
and this LH page about myOffer upgrades?
https://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/myoffer#FAQ
There is no Premium Economy for MUC-TLV-MUC and it's not worth upgrading to Business since you will get the same seat (with the seat next to you kept free).
Thanks so much for this info!
Sep 6, 2017, 6:16 am
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LH 429 CLT 10/20/17 6:30 PM MUC 10/21/17 9:30 AM 333 Daily
J9 C9 D8 Z0 P0 G9 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
LH 688 MUC 10/21/17 12:05 PM TLV 10/21/17 4:40 PM 321 Su,M,W,Th,Sa
J9 C9 D7 Z3 P1 Y9 B9 M4 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH 681 TLV 10/30/17 7:00 AM MUC 10/30/17 10:10 AM 321 M,Th,F,Sa
J9 C9 D8 Z5 P3 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
LH 428 MUC 10/30/17 12:05 PM CLT 10/30/17 5:40 PM 333 Daily
J9 C9 D9 Z9 P0 G9 E5 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
J9 C9 D8 Z0 P0 G9 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
LH 688 MUC 10/21/17 12:05 PM TLV 10/21/17 4:40 PM 321 Su,M,W,Th,Sa
J9 C9 D7 Z3 P1 Y9 B9 M4 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH 681 TLV 10/30/17 7:00 AM MUC 10/30/17 10:10 AM 321 M,Th,F,Sa
J9 C9 D8 Z5 P3 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
LH 428 MUC 10/30/17 12:05 PM CLT 10/30/17 5:40 PM 333 Daily
J9 C9 D9 Z9 P0 G9 E5 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
Sep 6, 2017, 8:03 am
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Is My LH Flight Overbooked ??
Oh wise LH FT Sages,
I am booked on a connecting LH Flight from FRA-DMM(LH 632) on Tues. Sept. 12. I am booked in paid "P" (discounted business) class and this particular week is the end of the Holiday Period called Eid Al Adha in Saudi Arabia.
Expert flyer lists the following load for LH 632 on Sept 12:
F2 A2 J2 C2 D0 Z0 P0 G0 E0 N0 Y0 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
The loads on the day before and after list similar lean availability.
On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is "no chance" and 10 is certainty, how probable is it that my flight is overbooked ? Does LH proactively work with passengers willing to give up their seat to reroute for Voluntary Denied Boarding ? What are the typical premiums paid to such passengers ? There seems to be some availability routing via CAI.
Your replies and insight are appreciated.
I am booked on a connecting LH Flight from FRA-DMM(LH 632) on Tues. Sept. 12. I am booked in paid "P" (discounted business) class and this particular week is the end of the Holiday Period called Eid Al Adha in Saudi Arabia.
Expert flyer lists the following load for LH 632 on Sept 12:
F2 A2 J2 C2 D0 Z0 P0 G0 E0 N0 Y0 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
The loads on the day before and after list similar lean availability.
On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is "no chance" and 10 is certainty, how probable is it that my flight is overbooked ? Does LH proactively work with passengers willing to give up their seat to reroute for Voluntary Denied Boarding ? What are the typical premiums paid to such passengers ? There seems to be some availability routing via CAI.
Your replies and insight are appreciated.