FAQ 3A2 - KLM Aircraft and Seating Questions
#91
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Well, some airlines have 2-5-2 in their 777's, but unless AF/KLM is leasing on from somewhere, it does seem that the KLM staff you spoke is wrong
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This is not exactly a 'seating' question but I think this is the best thread for it, so here goes:
Has anyone been on one of KLM's new ERJ (Embraer 190), and/or can anyone tell me what the overhead luggage bins are like?
On other (smaller) Embraers, the bins have a very small vertical dimension and my wheelie-case has to be gate-checked. But I like to put my laptop in the case and the gate-check handlers aren't always that gentle! (I'll be in the 'free newspaper'/'weird snack' section, so can I perhaps store the case in the closet?)
Any info much appreciated.
--Henry
EDIT: I think I've answered my own question, here: http://www.embraercommercialjets.com...=cross_section
Has anyone been on one of KLM's new ERJ (Embraer 190), and/or can anyone tell me what the overhead luggage bins are like?
On other (smaller) Embraers, the bins have a very small vertical dimension and my wheelie-case has to be gate-checked. But I like to put my laptop in the case and the gate-check handlers aren't always that gentle! (I'll be in the 'free newspaper'/'weird snack' section, so can I perhaps store the case in the closet?)
Any info much appreciated.
--Henry
EDIT: I think I've answered my own question, here: http://www.embraercommercialjets.com...=cross_section
Last edited by Henry III; Jul 14, 2009 at 9:07 am Reason: Added PS/Link
#94
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Good seats in coach on the MD11
I'm flying AMS-YYZ in October on an MD11. Which seats in coach provide the maximum legroom at no extra cost. Seatguru and Seatexpert seem to provide differing information whether the aisle seats on the sides of the aircraft are better than those in the middle. Has anyone had any experience?
#95
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This is not exactly a 'seating' question but I think this is the best thread for it, so here goes:
Has anyone been on one of KLM's new ERJ (Embraer 190), and/or can anyone tell me what the overhead luggage bins are like?
EDIT: I think I've answered my own question, here: http://www.embraercommercialjets.com...=cross_section
Has anyone been on one of KLM's new ERJ (Embraer 190), and/or can anyone tell me what the overhead luggage bins are like?
EDIT: I think I've answered my own question, here: http://www.embraercommercialjets.com...=cross_section
I have used the 190 several times from Colombia into Panama, and although most other 190 operators state 24x16x10 inches, trust me,you can fit bigger, I have seen Colombians squeeze all kinds of luggage into those bins.I don't know the config of the KLM metal, but on Copa, row 5 has more legroom but smaller luggage bins
Enjoy your trip
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#97
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KLM AMS to SFO
We are scheduled to fly from AMS to SFO in late September 2009 and will be flying World Class Business. We are scheduled to be in row 4 on the 747. Has anyone flown this recently, how are the seats, potv etc?
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I just flew on the SkyTeam livery 77W (PH-BVD). Row 10 only has the middle seats (D, E, F, G); on the sides row 9 is followed by row 11.
11 H,J,K are awful seats and should be avoided at all costs. Presumably the same is true for 11A,B,C. 11H gets bumped a lot. The screen is in the armrest and is smaller. The screens for seats 11J and 11K are horribly misaligned.
The seats on row 9 looked considerably wider.
11 H,J,K are awful seats and should be avoided at all costs. Presumably the same is true for 11A,B,C. 11H gets bumped a lot. The screen is in the armrest and is smaller. The screens for seats 11J and 11K are horribly misaligned.
The seats on row 9 looked considerably wider.
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I just flew the KLM 747 from AMS to JFK. We opted for seats in row 4. My wife and I had the two centre seats and my son by the window. They are excellent seats with plenty of space and easy access.
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Seat Row 34 on B747 JFK-AMS exists?
I have a seat reservation in Row 34 for the JFK-AMS late night flight in the middle of December. The reservation and seat assignment has been done by NW. When checking seatguru, seatexpert, and KLM.com there is NO ROW 34. Am I missing something? Is there a row 34 on KLM's 747?
#101
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I have a flight planned on 12 Dec with KLM from AMS to Tokyo. AMS -> TOK (NRT) will be carried out with a 747 Combi, while the NRT-AMS will be with a full pax 747. Any chances one private in-flight enterainment?
I know the PH-BFN has been fitted with PTV's, does anyone know about more 747's with PTV now? Is there a D-Check schedule around from KLM's 747's?
I know the PH-BFN has been fitted with PTV's, does anyone know about more 747's with PTV now? Is there a D-Check schedule around from KLM's 747's?
#102


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Hi all,
I know there probably is no right or wrong answer ... but, on a 747 Combi, would you recommend upstairs or downstairs for C class?
I've seen recommendations for both, but what's your take on it.
Thanks all, and Merry Christmas,
GenevaFlyer
I know there probably is no right or wrong answer ... but, on a 747 Combi, would you recommend upstairs or downstairs for C class?
I've seen recommendations for both, but what's your take on it.
Thanks all, and Merry Christmas,
GenevaFlyer
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Hi GF,
Don't know from personal experience, but folks I know have suggested that the front window seats in the 747's nose give some really good views (they're sort of a bit forward-ish facing).
If you're on a night flight and want some sleep, upstairs can be quieter, though.
-- Henry
Don't know from personal experience, but folks I know have suggested that the front window seats in the 747's nose give some really good views (they're sort of a bit forward-ish facing).
If you're on a night flight and want some sleep, upstairs can be quieter, though.
-- Henry
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#105
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I'm flying next year LHR-PHX with BA, and SFO-AMS with KLM on the way back. I really wish it could have been the other way around, as BA business class is perfect for a long overnight flight, whereas KLM is not in the same league.

