FAQ 3A2 - KLM Aircraft and Seating Questions
Apr 24, 06, 5:20 pm
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: BCN
Programs: BA Gold · A3 Gold · DL Gold · VY apologist
Posts: 8,538
FAQ 3A2 - KLM Aircraft and Seating Questions
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The Great KLM Aircraft & Seating FAQ has moved and been renamed to
You can find it here.
That thread is meant to serve as a guide, so will be locked. Please continue to use this thread for all your questions related to KL aircraft and the seats that are in them.
The Great KLM Aircraft & Seating FAQ has moved and been renamed to
The Great KLM Aircraft & Seating Guide
You can find it here.
That thread is meant to serve as a guide, so will be locked. Please continue to use this thread for all your questions related to KL aircraft and the seats that are in them.
Last edited by Gajan; Jan 2, 11 at 4:06 pm
Apr 26, 06, 1:12 pm
#7
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Netherlands
Programs: FB Platinum, M&M, BA Executive Club, Sofitel Plat, Priority Club, Starwood Preferred Guest
Posts: 1,447
Bravo!
Great summary!
Just one little thing, 747 all-pax has 386 Economy (used to be 384 before they installed 2 extra seats).
And the latest news is that apparently a number of the remaining 777 orders will be converted to 777-300 ER instead of -200 series.
Great summary!
Just one little thing, 747 all-pax has 386 Economy (used to be 384 before they installed 2 extra seats).
And the latest news is that apparently a number of the remaining 777 orders will be converted to 777-300 ER instead of -200 series.
Apr 28, 06, 2:12 pm
#9
Moderator: Flying Blue (Air France & KLM)
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Rotterdam, NL
Programs: Flying Blue (AF/KL)
Posts: 4,698
Originally Posted by jetfan
And the latest news is that apparently a number of the remaining 777 orders will be converted to 777-300 ER instead of -200 series.
mention if which ones they will replace (combi/full pax).
We will have to wait and see
May 21, 06, 8:40 pm
#11
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 8,555
A few things to add based on my recent flights:
MD-11: row 1 seats are nice though the lack of stowage space was a minor concern. row 2 would be roomy but lav proximity could be an issue (esp. 2B and 2E, and 2F and 2H). 5A footroom looked to be constricted by the aircraft door (if your feet extend past the footrest you could only stretch them ahead and to the right). 5B does have tons of space but not good for those with vertigo.
73x: 2C does have a lot of legroom since the closet really only blocks 2A/2B. Usual warnings apply about people and carts bumping into you as the passage narrows. 1D would be the same but really for left leg only. And its door swings into your space.
[Earlier posts were correctly deleted by moderator for being off the thread's topic, I hope this is okay. And thank you everyone for the advice before.]
=aw
MD-11: row 1 seats are nice though the lack of stowage space was a minor concern. row 2 would be roomy but lav proximity could be an issue (esp. 2B and 2E, and 2F and 2H). 5A footroom looked to be constricted by the aircraft door (if your feet extend past the footrest you could only stretch them ahead and to the right). 5B does have tons of space but not good for those with vertigo.
73x: 2C does have a lot of legroom since the closet really only blocks 2A/2B. Usual warnings apply about people and carts bumping into you as the passage narrows. 1D would be the same but really for left leg only. And its door swings into your space.
[Earlier posts were correctly deleted by moderator for being off the thread's topic, I hope this is okay. And thank you everyone for the advice before.]
=aw
Jun 17, 06, 5:59 pm
#12
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: SYD+TYO+GFK
Programs: UA 1K, QF Plat, VA Gold, IHG Spire Ambassador, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, Coles FlyBuys
Posts: 2,795
Alanw, GREAT compendum of information, and I'm very much flattered you included my comments!
General 73X comments: always grab seats near the front for extra legroom, the rows have 2 inches more, which is just enough to keep this six-footer comfortable. This would be Row 1-7 on 737-300 and -400, Row 1-10 on -800, Row 1-9 on -900.
Believe this applies to some F100s as well... I swear some of them have more legroom in the front.
If you like windows, avoid Row 6 on 737-300, Row 7 on -400, Row 8 on -800, and Row 10? on -900 as these rows do not have a window on either side.
General F70 and F100 comment: book exit rows at your own risk, there are actually several different configurations that have the exit rows numbered differently. I quit booking exit rows during OLCI after I got burned by this THREE times in a row. You're better off reserving a seat as far forward as possible to take advantage of the extra legroom.
Finally, don't sweat getting particular seats on 737s and F70/100 ahead of time (either when reserving seats if booked in Business, or during OLCI) because KL often changes the aircraft due to loads... I've expected F70s and gotten F100s, and seen 737-300s swapped for -400s and -800s, and vice versa. Yet another way to kiss your exit row seat goodbye.
General 73X comments: always grab seats near the front for extra legroom, the rows have 2 inches more, which is just enough to keep this six-footer comfortable. This would be Row 1-7 on 737-300 and -400, Row 1-10 on -800, Row 1-9 on -900.
Believe this applies to some F100s as well... I swear some of them have more legroom in the front.
If you like windows, avoid Row 6 on 737-300, Row 7 on -400, Row 8 on -800, and Row 10? on -900 as these rows do not have a window on either side.
General F70 and F100 comment: book exit rows at your own risk, there are actually several different configurations that have the exit rows numbered differently. I quit booking exit rows during OLCI after I got burned by this THREE times in a row. You're better off reserving a seat as far forward as possible to take advantage of the extra legroom.
Finally, don't sweat getting particular seats on 737s and F70/100 ahead of time (either when reserving seats if booked in Business, or during OLCI) because KL often changes the aircraft due to loads... I've expected F70s and gotten F100s, and seen 737-300s swapped for -400s and -800s, and vice versa. Yet another way to kiss your exit row seat goodbye.
Jul 15, 06, 11:50 am
#14
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: PBI
Posts: 754
The MD-11 is mainly used on routes: ACC, AUA, BON, CAI, CUR, DUB, LOS, LIM, YUL, UIO, YVR
Those wacky Dutch fly an MD11 to Dublin?
Must be a happening place!!!
I'd fly it to DXB, but hey...what do I know ?
In any case, this is a great thread. Thank you!
Those wacky Dutch fly an MD11 to Dublin?
Must be a happening place!!!
I'd fly it to DXB, but hey...what do I know ?
In any case, this is a great thread. Thank you!
Jul 30, 06, 7:47 am
#15
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Belgium
Programs: Flying Blue Ivory (never use it), CoOnepass, DeltaSkymiles, AAdvantage
Posts: 795
forgot aircraft type
KL 621 Jul 22. Seat 29A B767-306ER PH-BZH
29A is a fairly good seat but the only negative is the door that hangs a little in the cabin but if you change the position of your legs there should be no problem.
29A is a fairly good seat but the only negative is the door that hangs a little in the cabin but if you change the position of your legs there should be no problem.
