FAQ 3A2 - KLM Aircraft and Seating Questions
Sep 11, 2008 | 1:58 am
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Sep 29, 2008 | 7:29 pm
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Can anyone help, I booked a flight on KL617 AMS>DTW on A330. What I don't understand is all the websites when you go to seat selection are not showing row 10. Anyone know is there a row 10 in the center or not? The seat selection map looks very different than Seatguru or KLM's website maps. Thanks.
Oct 6, 2008 | 6:21 am
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I remember to have read very recently that they have finished that program and that WBC cabins in all B744's were refurbished by now. I will see on 10/23 when flying AMS-KUL.
Nov 18, 2008 | 4:27 am
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Having never flown Y on KLM's B772 I was wondering if someone could tell me which seats are blocked out for Seat Choice? I got put in 21C now, so I'd like to get a seat with a little bit more legroom 
Thanks!
Thanks!
Dec 9, 2008 | 10:06 am
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Boeing 777–300ER
Number of pax:
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™: 35
Economy Class: 390
Seat Information & IFE
Seatmap: [url=http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/KLM/KLM_Boeing_777-300ER.php[/url]
World Business Class:
Pitch: 60”
Width: 20"
Recline: 170o
Seating Plan: 2-3-2
Economy Class:
Pitch: 31” / 34''
Width: 17.5" (which is true! but aisles are narrower)
Seating Plan: 2-0-0 (row9), 2-4-2 (row10), 3-4-3, 2-4-2 in the back.
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™:
Video IFE: Audio & Video on Demand / AF Business class seats and screen
Audio IFE: Audio & Video on Demand / AF Business class seats and screen
Economy Class:
Video IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, widescreen in all seats, even armrest mounted
Audio IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, widescreen
Program Guide
Comments & Advice
The armrest PTV on the rows 9, 10, 30 and 50 are exactly the same size as in other rows unlike stated on SeatGuru.
Just flew with KLM on airliners PH-BVA, a 777-300ER their route JRO-DAR-AMS.
Row 9 A, B only has one window and a long blind claustrophobic wall with really great legroom. No toilets there unlike the KL 772. http://myaviation.net/?pid=01488363
Row 10J, K has more limited legroom but two windows on the side.
Seats 10 B and 10J are wider seats on the shoulder padding. Seats 9AB, 10AB and 10JK have wider seats.
Seat 11C and 11H have a much restricted legroom as the anchor is in the middle of the legroom.
Exit rows 30 and 50 are crowded with queues to the loo. Row 30 has a flat exit door whereas row 50 has the protuberant version.
Seats 59ABJK have a great side space as aisle is large but these seats are not facing their screens (it looks weird).
Number of pax:
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™: 35
Economy Class: 390
Seat Information & IFE
Seatmap: [url=http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/KLM/KLM_Boeing_777-300ER.php[/url]
World Business Class:
Pitch: 60”
Width: 20"
Recline: 170o
Seating Plan: 2-3-2
Economy Class:
Pitch: 31” / 34''
Width: 17.5" (which is true! but aisles are narrower)
Seating Plan: 2-0-0 (row9), 2-4-2 (row10), 3-4-3, 2-4-2 in the back.
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™:
Video IFE: Audio & Video on Demand / AF Business class seats and screen
Audio IFE: Audio & Video on Demand / AF Business class seats and screen
Economy Class:
Video IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, widescreen in all seats, even armrest mounted
Audio IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, widescreen
Program Guide
Comments & Advice
The armrest PTV on the rows 9, 10, 30 and 50 are exactly the same size as in other rows unlike stated on SeatGuru.
Just flew with KLM on airliners PH-BVA, a 777-300ER their route JRO-DAR-AMS.
Row 9 A, B only has one window and a long blind claustrophobic wall with really great legroom. No toilets there unlike the KL 772. http://myaviation.net/?pid=01488363
Row 10J, K has more limited legroom but two windows on the side.
Seats 10 B and 10J are wider seats on the shoulder padding. Seats 9AB, 10AB and 10JK have wider seats.
Seat 11C and 11H have a much restricted legroom as the anchor is in the middle of the legroom.
Exit rows 30 and 50 are crowded with queues to the loo. Row 30 has a flat exit door whereas row 50 has the protuberant version.
Seats 59ABJK have a great side space as aisle is large but these seats are not facing their screens (it looks weird).
Dec 9, 2008 | 10:15 am
#69
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Legroom is a bit more restricted than 11CG but I usually do not behave and put my feet on the wall...
Next is 10AB, same but a bit near the loo and the drinking fountain (foot traffic, noise).
Feb 22, 2009 | 6:52 am
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Mar 22, 2009 | 3:16 am
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Thank you very much for you answer!
As I really needed ASAP a precise inventory of the KLM long-haul fleet, and as I got no answer here, I used another method. I just had a look at the aircraft types and registrations mentioned in the comments of AirLiners.com pictures (747-406 vs 747-406M).
And your post, perfectly confirms what I've found ^
Cool. Thanks!
As I really needed ASAP a precise inventory of the KLM long-haul fleet, and as I got no answer here, I used another method. I just had a look at the aircraft types and registrations mentioned in the comments of AirLiners.com pictures (747-406 vs 747-406M).
And your post, perfectly confirms what I've found ^
Cool. Thanks!
Mar 22, 2009 | 9:01 am
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Should you require even more information, try planespotters.net, airfleets.net or plane-list.com.
Johan
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Mar 22, 2009 | 9:06 am
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Should you require even more information, try planespotters.net
I already knew Airfleets.net but this information was missing
Mar 30, 2009 | 3:43 pm
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Can anyone help, I booked a flight on KL617 AMS>DTW on A330. What I don't understand is all the websites when you go to seat selection are not showing row 10. Anyone know is there a row 10 in the center or not? The seat selection map looks very different than Seatguru or KLM's website maps. Thanks.