Mess in AMS today - April 2022 onwards
Jun 28, 2022, 6:01 am
#1351
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: CT
Programs: Marriott-LT Titanium; AA-LT Gold/Currently Plat Pro
Posts: 208
Can someone help me understand how this would work - My daughter and her boyfriend are flying out of AMS headed to BOS, one on IcelandAir (non US citizen) and one on Delta (US citizen) no checked luggage and both (hopefully) will have boarding passes already - Is there separate security and passport control for them since IcelandAir goes from Departures 1 and Delta from Departures 2? Is there anyway for them to queue together to share the misery? I assume once they are on the other side they can meet up for sure - IcelandAir departs two hours after DL anyhow. Thank you !
Jun 28, 2022, 6:05 am
#1352
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 94
Can someone help me understand how this would work - My daughter and her boyfriend are flying out of AMS headed to BOS, one on IcelandAir (non US citizen) and one on Delta (US citizen) no checked luggage and both (hopefully) will have boarding passes already - Is there separate security and passport control for them since IcelandAir goes from Departures 1 and Delta from Departures 2? Is there anyway for them to queue together to share the misery? I assume once they are on the other side they can meet up for sure - IcelandAir departs two hours after DL anyhow. Thank you !
Jun 28, 2022, 6:22 am
#1353
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: Top Tier with all 3 alliances
Posts: 11,669
I hear you, I wouldn't want to leave this airport and try to come back in either....
Jun 28, 2022, 6:37 am
#1354
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: AMS+IAH
Programs: Lufthansa: Senator || IHG: Diamond Royal Ambassador Inner Circle || Plutonium Status
Posts: 3,511
Less flights BA: LHR/LGW - ANS
Check your bookings,
If you have a flight booked this summer with British Airways from Amsterdam to/from London Heatrow/Gatwick
From Raffles his blog:
https://www.headforpoints.com/2022/0...-haul-flights/
and https://aeroroutes.com/eng/220627-bajul22lonBritish Airways departures from London Gatwick (last week vs this week and the rest of July):
British Airways departures from London Heathrow (last week vs this week and the rest of July):
Might be these BA passengers will be re-accomodated to KLM or jump ship by rebooking themselves on the KLM flights
If you have a flight booked this summer with British Airways from Amsterdam to/from London Heatrow/Gatwick
From Raffles his blog:
https://www.headforpoints.com/2022/0...-haul-flights/
and https://aeroroutes.com/eng/220627-bajul22lon
British Airways departures from London Gatwick (last week vs this week and the rest of July):
Amsterdam 83 to 60
British Airways departures from London Heathrow (last week vs this week and the rest of July):
Amsterdam 196 to 160
Might be these BA passengers will be re-accomodated to KLM or jump ship by rebooking themselves on the KLM flights
Jun 28, 2022, 8:06 am
#1355
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,333
Jun 28, 2022, 8:24 am
#1356
Join Date: May 2021
Programs: Flying Blue Gold, BA Bronze, Ex-skywards Platnium
Posts: 646
When I was still Silver in April, I was allowed to use the priority check-in counters after showing my "card" on the AF app. After that, I only transited through AMS.
Jun 28, 2022, 9:27 am
#1357
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: BAEC Silver, Flying Blue Gold, TK M&S Nobody
Posts: 2,481
Except [if I understand correctly] Silver doesn't get priority security - just check-in. We've not heard if the affected passenger needed to use the desks, or was just headed for the priority security line [whether by the front entrance or the back].
Jun 28, 2022, 3:19 pm
#1359
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 94
Mr FlyingBlonde was on a 9.30am flight and said the line was the worst he'd seen but it moved relatively quickly once he was in it (overall 1 hour approx to clear everything for a non-schengen flight). He's silver and was turned away from the priority area (he said it was heavily guarded and lots of other passengers were also turned away).
He said security has tightened up significantly and any potential 'leak' points were closed off by Schiphol staff.
Arrived at 7am and cleared it all in the regular queue after 1hour and 5mins despite it looking far worse than previous queues.
Curious if anyone else has thoughts on the silver rejection and whether this is correct procedure. (As a platinum I'm not impacted but it seems odd that presumably silver can still do priority baggage drop but not nip through security... or can anyone report that they've also been turned away from SP as a silver?)
Jun 28, 2022, 3:23 pm
#1360
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 94
Yeah, still seems odd because if you just flash your card and say you couldn't check in then you can get through SP and therefore skip security... it's not like CDG where there are (sometimes) separate SP lanes when transitioning between terminals. The setup in AMS makes this distinction seem rather pedantic.
Jun 28, 2022, 3:25 pm
#1361
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Norway & Brazil
Programs: Flying Blue Ultimate, LATAM Black, ALL Platinum, Hertz Platinum
Posts: 610
Jun 28, 2022, 3:29 pm
#1362
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 94
Clear but then why not police the priority security area? (Or give Silvers a break and not make the distinction given how ridiculous it is to allow some Silvers FastTrack security?) Or have Silvers use a priority lane at regular checkin for Amsterdam? It seems really really odd to allow those with bags or who can't/haven't checked in to also skip security...
Jun 28, 2022, 3:38 pm
#1363
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Join Date: Dec 2017
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Clear but then why not police the priority security area? (Or give Silvers a break and not make the distinction given how ridiculous it is to allow some Silvers FastTrack security?) Or have Silvers use a priority lane at regular checkin for Amsterdam? It seems really really odd to allow those with bags or who can't/haven't checked in to also skip security...
Jun 28, 2022, 3:47 pm
#1364
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 94
Jun 28, 2022, 4:01 pm
#1365
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Join Date: Dec 2017
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As to why the priority security area isn't policed, I agree it should be policed.
As to why some Silvers are given FastTrack security, well in theory they shouldn't unless they are travelling in J.
As to why there isn't a priority check-in lane at the regular check-in area for Silvers. I guess there is no need, it is easier to invite them to use the SkyPriority check-in area. This also makes it easier at outstations.
Last edited by Arpoador; Jun 28, 2022 at 4:10 pm