Mess in AMS today - April 2022 onwards
Jun 1, 2022, 2:28 am
#601
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Not only that, you have the Dutch government on your side too. They wasted €200,000 of taxpayer money trying to rebrand the country and stop people from saying Holland. Now if they had paid the entire sum to me, I might just have complied. But probably not for long.
All we need now is for somebody to write new PC lyrics for HupHolland Hup!
Johan
All we need now is for somebody to write new PC lyrics for Hup
Johan
Jun 1, 2022, 2:30 am
#602
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RTL Nieuws is reporting that this coming weekend is expected to result in a "critical situation": https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/economie/be...uni-zomer-niet
Jun 1, 2022, 2:44 am
#603
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Apparently Schiphol and the unions have found an agreement to move forward, however travelers should still expect long lines and delays over the summer.
For those planning flights from Amsterdam airport this summer.
Rijksoverheid shows the dates for annual school holidays:
https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwe...ties-2021-2022
You can get an impression which weekends ( the actual start of the school sumner holidays) (per region) will become busy at Schiphol airport. Besides departures, don't forget about the expected increase at arrivals. So be warned!
Rijksoverheid shows the dates for annual school holidays:
https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwe...ties-2021-2022
You can get an impression which weekends ( the actual start of the school sumner holidays) (per region) will become busy at Schiphol airport. Besides departures, don't forget about the expected increase at arrivals. So be warned!
I'm departing the 15th very early morning. If long lines are nowadays already there at 3AM I may consider just going airside at midnight, overnight somewhere airside instead. May be more comfortable than getting up at 2AM, taking a taxi to the airport, and stand in line for 3 hours in the middle of the night..
Jun 1, 2022, 2:46 am
#604
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What makes you think the rest of the country (or the rest of the world, for that matter) even has an opinion. I bet that the vast majority of Hollanders couldn't care less.
Being both antiquated and congenitally incorrect, I'll leave that to the officious, pedantic and bumptious. With pleasure!
OK, end of spat, back on topic.
One thing I have in my favor here is that I rarely fly on weekends, and to my great relief I have no AMS weekend flights planned at all this year, barring contingencies.
Johan
OK, end of spat, back on topic.
RTL Nieuws is reporting that this coming weekend is expected to result in a "critical situation": https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/economie/be...uni-zomer-niet
Johan
Jun 1, 2022, 3:57 am
#606
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I am flying via AMS quite often, but now for the next 3 months, I cannot find a "normal" price Biz or Eco.
really feels they do not want you to fly there
Jun 1, 2022, 4:41 am
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Relax everybody, take a deep breath, here's some really good news for all those who face the prospect of horrendous airport queues: the Knight in Shining IATA Armor is riding to our rescue!
The organization is boldly calling for "holistic reforms"! As everybody knows, anything remotely holistic will solve any and every problem by magic. Just like that!
The more practical suggestions include gems such as "Adoption of 25by25 campaign to help address the gender imbalance across the industry". A perfunctory sop to the woke ESG crowd for sure, but I don't quite see how that's going to shorten the lines at AMS this coming weekend.
Fortunately, they have also come up with some really original and innovative ideas that might actually make a difference, e.g. "Adoption of new technologies and automated processes". Thank God for IATA's shiny knight, I could never have thought of that one myself. And surely Benschop couldn't either.
Johan
The organization is boldly calling for "holistic reforms"! As everybody knows, anything remotely holistic will solve any and every problem by magic. Just like that!
The more practical suggestions include gems such as "Adoption of 25by25 campaign to help address the gender imbalance across the industry". A perfunctory sop to the woke ESG crowd for sure, but I don't quite see how that's going to shorten the lines at AMS this coming weekend.
Fortunately, they have also come up with some really original and innovative ideas that might actually make a difference, e.g. "Adoption of new technologies and automated processes". Thank God for IATA's shiny knight, I could never have thought of that one myself. And surely Benschop couldn't either.
Johan
Jun 1, 2022, 6:27 am
#610
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Not only that, you have the Dutch government on your side too. They wasted €200,000 of taxpayer money trying to rebrand the country and stop people from saying Holland. Now if they had paid the entire sum to me, I might just have complied. But probably not for long.
All we need now is for somebody to write new PC lyrics for HupHolland Hup!
HupHolland Hup
Johan
All we need now is for somebody to write new PC lyrics for Hup
Hup
Johan
North-South Holland is just a relatively small part of The Netherlands and doesn’t do justice to the rest of the remaining 10 provinces so it’s not more than logical that the country is called The Netherlands.
You also don’t call the United Kingdom, England, do you 😊? This is more or less the same situation.
Jun 1, 2022, 7:08 am
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Jun 1, 2022, 7:22 am
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With the seemingly daily news of BA and easyjet cancelling upwards of 100 flights, it seems likely that there will be many such "manifestations" for airlines operating from Schiphol, too!!!
Jun 1, 2022, 7:25 am
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https://onzetaal.nl/taaladvies/engel...igd-koninkrijk
Jun 1, 2022, 7:42 am
#614
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Spoken like a true "hollander" with arrogance and absolutely no regard for nuance nor the opinion of the rest of the country. Which is fine, it is your prerogative.
It doesn't change the fact that using "Holland" to refer to the country is antiquated and incorrect. The official name is the Netherlands.
It doesn't change the fact that using "Holland" to refer to the country is antiquated and incorrect. The official name is the Netherlands.
Change is difficult, I know😁
North-South Holland is just a relatively small part of The Netherlands and doesn’t do justice to the rest of the remaining 10 provinces so it’s not more than logical that the country is called The Netherlands.
You also don’t call the United Kingdom, England, do you 😊? This is more or less the same situation.
North-South Holland is just a relatively small part of The Netherlands and doesn’t do justice to the rest of the remaining 10 provinces so it’s not more than logical that the country is called The Netherlands.
You also don’t call the United Kingdom, England, do you 😊? This is more or less the same situation.
OK, maybe Randstad would be more all-encompassing as I am sure many airport workers commute from Provincie Utrecht and no doubt a sizeable number also from the southwestern end of Flevoland, but the fact remains, Schiphol is in Holland. And the situation it finds itself in is only very tangentially related to job market in Maastricht, which, while undoubtedly being in The Netherlands, is very far from Holland indeed.
Jun 1, 2022, 7:51 am
#615
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I have no idea. The one and only time I managed to use the airport was years ago, lately they just don't offer any useful destination for me, except perhaps LCY but that that's on BA, so of limited usefulness compared to LCY KL flights from AMS.