Mess in AMS today - up to March 2022
#391
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: FR
Programs: FB Plat
Posts: 299
Feel free to check real-time information on the Eurocontrol NOP (https://www.public.nm.eurocontrol.in.../gateway/spec/ and https://ext.eurocontrol.int/airport_...nnedactivities). It is especially stated that until 01/06 you can expect the following capacity restrictions:
And of course these works are coordinated especially with Schiphol and KL. I am not sure all last-minute cancellations should be considered due to "exceptional circumstances"...
Capacity 05:00-18:00 (with three ground controllers)
-inbound peaks inbound 64/hr & outbound 32-36/hr
-outbound peaks inbound 32/hr & outbound 64-68/hr
-other moments nominal capacity
Capacity from 18:00 (with two ground controllers)
-inbound peaks inbound 60/hr & outbound 30/hr
-outbound peaks inbound 30/hr & outbound 60/hr
-other moments nominal capacity
The capacity depends on the number of ground controllers available in Tower-Centre (two or three). Capacity above is according to the availability currently planned.
-inbound peaks inbound 64/hr & outbound 32-36/hr
-outbound peaks inbound 32/hr & outbound 64-68/hr
-other moments nominal capacity
Capacity from 18:00 (with two ground controllers)
-inbound peaks inbound 60/hr & outbound 30/hr
-outbound peaks inbound 30/hr & outbound 60/hr
-other moments nominal capacity
The capacity depends on the number of ground controllers available in Tower-Centre (two or three). Capacity above is according to the availability currently planned.
#392
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: FB Platinum
Posts: 280
Still messy. Many incomming flights to AMS tomorrow morning pushed up to 3 hours forward. My own for instance...
#393
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
If many incoming morning flights are delayed up to three hours, that almost guarantees that things will be screwed up for the rest of the day as well.
Schiphol's management has been asking for trouble ever since they decided it would be such a great idea to run the airport at 100% capacity or more. All it now takes is a few snowflakes, a bit of wind, some fog, runway maintenance or ATC issues for things to go completely haywire.
Johan
#394
Join Date: May 2012
Location: AMS
Programs: BA KL LH Hilton Marriott
Posts: 1,233
That sucks!I hope you don't have a connection. Good luck!
If many incoming morning flights are delayed up to three hours, that almost guarantees that things will be screwed up for the rest of the day as well.
Schiphol's management has been asking for trouble ever since they decided it would be such a great idea to run the airport at 100% capacity or more. All it now takes is a few snowflakes, a bit of wind, some fog, runway maintenance or ATC issues for things to go completely haywire.
Johan
If many incoming morning flights are delayed up to three hours, that almost guarantees that things will be screwed up for the rest of the day as well.
Schiphol's management has been asking for trouble ever since they decided it would be such a great idea to run the airport at 100% capacity or more. All it now takes is a few snowflakes, a bit of wind, some fog, runway maintenance or ATC issues for things to go completely haywire.
Johan
#395
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: AMS / DUS / DXB
Programs: BAEC Silver | Flying Blue Gold | Accor Gold
Posts: 107
I'm not sure if someone posted it already but there'll be a massive public transit strike in the Netherlands on the 28th of may.
It's a 24 hour strike throughout the whole country.
Expect massive disruption if you have to get to Schiphol.
(found this out the hard way - which resulted in a forced stay at an airport hotel)
It's a 24 hour strike throughout the whole country.
Expect massive disruption if you have to get to Schiphol.
(found this out the hard way - which resulted in a forced stay at an airport hotel)
#396
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, JetBlue Mosaic, Hyatt Globalist, Alaska MVP Gold.
Posts: 1,962
How did you find out the hard way? Are you a time traveler? Thanks for the note anyway.
#397
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: AMS / DUS / DXB
Programs: BAEC Silver | Flying Blue Gold | Accor Gold
Posts: 107
#398
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, JetBlue Mosaic, Hyatt Globalist, Alaska MVP Gold.
Posts: 1,962
Oof.
#399
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Netherlands
Programs: FB Platinum
Posts: 113
I'm not sure if someone posted it already but there'll be a massive public transit strike in the Netherlands on the 28th of may.
It's a 24 hour strike throughout the whole country.
Expect massive disruption if you have to get to Schiphol.
(found this out the hard way - which resulted in a forced stay at an airport hotel)
It's a 24 hour strike throughout the whole country.
Expect massive disruption if you have to get to Schiphol.
(found this out the hard way - which resulted in a forced stay at an airport hotel)
#400
Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: FB, M&B, UA, AA
Posts: 2,489
There are these websites where you can pre-book taxi's and I still was able to book one yesterday (for a trip to Schiphol on 28 May). You can also book them from Schiphol. Lawsuit apparently is on Sunday and should give a direct judgment.
#401
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: UK/FR
Programs: FlyingBlue Platinum, Hertz PC
Posts: 886
If anyone gets stuck overnight in AMS, the guidelines KLM has for reimbursement are the following if you don't want to wait for vouchers & co:
- 190 EUR for the hotel
- 25 EUR for food
- 50 EUR for transport
#402
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Amsterdam
Programs: FB Club 2000, M&M Hon
Posts: 242
Accessible means a busservice between the parkinglots and the main/crew terminal.
#403
Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: FB, M&B, UA, AA
Posts: 2,489
No, that kind of service is available as standard. The lawsuit is about preventing that Schiphol has not any trains to/from key destinations.Let us see what comes out of this in the next 20 hours.
#404
Moderator: Aegean Miles+Bonus
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: AMS / ATH
Programs: AFKL Plat, A3 Gold
Posts: 7,342
The judge ruled that there will be 4 trains an hour between Amsterdam Central and Schiphol. That seems to be it.
This will likely become a huuuuge mess. These few trains will not, in any way, make up for all the lost/canceled services between the city and airport.
This will likely become a huuuuge mess. These few trains will not, in any way, make up for all the lost/canceled services between the city and airport.
#405
Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: FB, M&B, UA, AA
Posts: 2,489
Agree. This helps no one coming from any other destination as Amsterdam. I prebooked a cab from den Haag but I guess huge traffic jams since 1000s of travellers now have to resort to such options. So built in 2 hours slack in what normally is a 30 min drive.
Last edited by atflyer; May 26, 2019 at 10:52 am