First new security filter operational at AMS
#391
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Same experience for me today around 10AM. Security had a few minutes wait, passport control line looped around a few times and started pretty much at the far right (Priority) security checkpoint. I'd say it was indeed about a 20 minutes wait, which is quite annoying as this has been going on for weeks or perhaps even months now.
#392
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Same experience for me today around 10AM. Security had a few minutes wait, passport control line looped around a few times and started pretty much at the far right (Priority) security checkpoint. I'd say it was indeed about a 20 minutes wait, which is quite annoying as this has been going on for weeks or perhaps even months now.
I've seen a few times where the non-EU queue was like that, while the EU queue was empty, but after passing SP security you have no way of telling that so normally there are "helpers" redirecting EU passport holders to the EU queue.
#394
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#396
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#397
Hi,
Does anyone know why is it at certain times at this central security check that 90% of scanned bags will go into the secondary check lanes?
I noticed it's normally during the midday hours where lines are moderate, they this happens (not sure if I can use 3-4 times of such situation as statistics).
It's just so irritating. Had a long discussion with the Team Leader at that time at the Priority line (though this was happening for all lanes). As usual gave the usual story, it's the computer and it's for our safety, blah, blah, blah.
It seems also that the person sitting behind the screen (just knew this) does not determine which bags goes secondary, but some command center that determines this.
It's just so frustrating that my same bag with the same content at 90% of the airports around the world is OK and yet at AMS gets the secondary - and it's not because of the same object, but always a different reason (umbrella (travel version), keys, cables, etc - either one of these will be mentioned to be the root cause).
I am just curious to find out what's so special about the security at AMS which is a big PITA.
In addition, not sure why is again only at AMS, they they are so reluctant to use the automated passport gates when now recently at most EU airports where these gates are installed are nearly always available (the one's at CDG are a PITA to use as it takes close to 5 mins for the whole process while normally at German, UK and Italian airports, it's not more than 2 mins to get through).
Cheers!
Does anyone know why is it at certain times at this central security check that 90% of scanned bags will go into the secondary check lanes?
I noticed it's normally during the midday hours where lines are moderate, they this happens (not sure if I can use 3-4 times of such situation as statistics).
It's just so irritating. Had a long discussion with the Team Leader at that time at the Priority line (though this was happening for all lanes). As usual gave the usual story, it's the computer and it's for our safety, blah, blah, blah.
It seems also that the person sitting behind the screen (just knew this) does not determine which bags goes secondary, but some command center that determines this.
It's just so frustrating that my same bag with the same content at 90% of the airports around the world is OK and yet at AMS gets the secondary - and it's not because of the same object, but always a different reason (umbrella (travel version), keys, cables, etc - either one of these will be mentioned to be the root cause).
I am just curious to find out what's so special about the security at AMS which is a big PITA.
In addition, not sure why is again only at AMS, they they are so reluctant to use the automated passport gates when now recently at most EU airports where these gates are installed are nearly always available (the one's at CDG are a PITA to use as it takes close to 5 mins for the whole process while normally at German, UK and Italian airports, it's not more than 2 mins to get through).
Cheers!
#398
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I know that Schiphol's official goal is that no more than 10% of bags should be scanned a second time.
It's just so frustrating that my same bag with the same content at 90% of the airports around the world is OK and yet at AMS gets the secondary - and it's not because of the same object, but always a different reason (umbrella (travel version), keys, cables, etc - either one of these will be mentioned to be the root cause).
Johan
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#400
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I have a 100% success rate of my last 5-10 trips ex AMS of my bag not going to secondary inspection, while before I had pretty much the opposite. I have achieved this by literally removing everything that is electric or electronic and placing it in bins.
#401
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On more than one occasion have I watched my bag come to a stop just before the point where the conveyor splits. It then sat there while the agent stared at the screen for a while, before deciding which way to send it. No prize for guessing the most frequent outcome.
Johan
#402
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Also in that case, the trays sat in point before the split for a few seconds before a decision was made, how and by whom the decision was made I don't know...
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#404
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Schiphol is literally the worst airport for me security-wise.
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