Apple Pay & Suica on iPhone/Apple Watch in Japan [consolidated thread]
Dec 18, 2023, 4:27 pm
#346
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Dec 18, 2023, 4:28 pm
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Dec 25, 2023, 7:34 am
#348
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Was just able to recharge PASMO in Apple wallet twice using my Chase sapphire reserve. Hopefully this means their backend has been updated like Suica was recently. Will verify whether it’s still coding as travel once it posts.
Dec 25, 2023, 7:56 am
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I suspect you probably won't know until the 27th at the earliest. What about ICOCA?
Mar 24, 2024, 12:20 pm
#351
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Nothing Phone (2A) possibly a new contender for a Osaifu Keitai/Mobile Suica enabled Android device. It is considered a mid-range/budget priced phone rather than flagship, so not sure if they'll also limit Mobile Suica to JP purchased models or possibly tie it to a region setting to save on the Felica licensing fees.
https://jp.nothing.tech/pages/phone-2a (If you get localized, select country is on bottom of page lower right)
Nothing OS is based on Android 14
JP page network bands
US page network bands
8 GB RAM + 128 GB Storage 49,800 JPY $349 USD
US is currently via dev program, possibly only https://www.tomsguide.com/news/nothing-phone-2a
12 GB RAM + 256 GB Storage 55,800 JPY UK 349 GBP
12 GB JP model starts shipping end of March with 8GB release to be announced.
It is dual nano pSIM, possibly stand-by https://www.gsmarena.com/nothing_phone_(2a)-12760.php
Nothing's OS update policy is 3 years major updates and 4 years security https://9to5google.com/2023/06/01/no...pdates-policy/ while Pixel 7A gets 3 years major updates and 5 years security
Unlocked Pixel 7A purchased in JP about 47,000 if you do COD https://kakaku.com/keitai/smartphone/model/M0000001005/ or 54,000 via official store https://store.google.com/jp/product/pixel_7a?hl=ja and comes with pSIM + eSIM dual setup. I've read Pixels are fairly popular in Japan, too, so there's probably a bit more community support.
https://jp.nothing.tech/pages/phone-2a (If you get localized, select country is on bottom of page lower right)
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JP page network bands
対応バンド(日本国内)
5G(Sub6): n1, n3, n28,n41, n77, n78
4G LTE:1, 3, 8,18, 19, 26, 28,41,42
3G UMTS (WCDMA): bands 1,6,8,19
2G GSM : 850/900
対応バンド(国際ローミング)
5G(Sub6):n5, n7, n8,n12,n20,n38, n40,n66
4G LTE: 4, 5, 7, 20, 38, 39, 40, 66
3G UMTS (WCDMA): bands 4,5
2G GSM : 1800/1900
5G(Sub6): n1, n3, n28,n41, n77, n78
4G LTE:1, 3, 8,18, 19, 26, 28,41,42
3G UMTS (WCDMA): bands 1,6,8,19
2G GSM : 850/900
対応バンド(国際ローミング)
5G(Sub6):n5, n7, n8,n12,n20,n38, n40,n66
4G LTE: 4, 5, 7, 20, 38, 39, 40, 66
3G UMTS (WCDMA): bands 4,5
2G GSM : 1800/1900
5G NR band
sn1, n3, n5, n7, n8, n20, n28, n38, n40, n41, n66, n77, n78
4G LTE bands
1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 20, 26, 28, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 66
3G UMTS (WCDMA) bands
1, 4, 5, 6, 8, 19
2G GSM
850/900/1800/1900
sn1, n3, n5, n7, n8, n20, n28, n38, n40, n41, n66, n77, n78
4G LTE bands
1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 20, 26, 28, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 66
3G UMTS (WCDMA) bands
1, 4, 5, 6, 8, 19
2G GSM
850/900/1800/1900
US is currently via dev program, possibly only https://www.tomsguide.com/news/nothing-phone-2a
12 GB RAM + 256 GB Storage 55,800 JPY UK 349 GBP
12 GB JP model starts shipping end of March with 8GB release to be announced.
It is dual nano pSIM, possibly stand-by https://www.gsmarena.com/nothing_phone_(2a)-12760.php
Nothing's OS update policy is 3 years major updates and 4 years security https://9to5google.com/2023/06/01/no...pdates-policy/ while Pixel 7A gets 3 years major updates and 5 years security
Unlocked Pixel 7A purchased in JP about 47,000 if you do COD https://kakaku.com/keitai/smartphone/model/M0000001005/ or 54,000 via official store https://store.google.com/jp/product/pixel_7a?hl=ja and comes with pSIM + eSIM dual setup. I've read Pixels are fairly popular in Japan, too, so there's probably a bit more community support.
Apr 27, 2024, 12:05 am
#353
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I have never encountered a place that allowed this. I have been able to put 20,000 via Suica down and pay the balance with a credit card.
Apr 27, 2024, 2:05 am
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How fast can you reload your Suica? For me it's almost instantaneous, using Apple Pay. So maybe swipe 20k, reload, repeat?
Apr 27, 2024, 2:08 am
#356
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You can have a bunch of suica/pasmo/icoca cards on your device, so there is no need to reload. The issue is that retailers IME aren't set up to allow you to spread a payment across multiple such payments. As mentioned the best I could do was to put 20000yen on suica and pay the remainder via credit card.