JAL - Hot Cabin
#16
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It is more PHYSIOLOGIC then cultural, which has turned into a bad habit kept alive by unknowledgeable passengers! Basic Human Physiology 101.
I will bet it is more of a fuel $$ saving reason to ignore the discomfort caused to a majority of passengers, who don't know what is best for them or why they are so uncomfortable and short of breath.
I will bet it is more of a fuel $$ saving reason to ignore the discomfort caused to a majority of passengers, who don't know what is best for them or why they are so uncomfortable and short of breath.
#17
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I had the same experience on all my flights as well. And I am a person who hates high temperatures.
#18
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Just took JL708 out of BKK (1 August) and thought the cabin was very warm, and inconsistent. At times my wife and I would sweat, and 30 minutes later be comfortable. Never had a problem like that before. We were glad to get off in that respect.
#19
Join Date: Aug 2001
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#20
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#21
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I flew my usual route BKK-KIX last week and experienced the same. I asked the chief to turn down the A/C! It was soo hot I couldn't sleep(and it never got cooler). The blanket stayed in the plastic bag on the floor from the moment I sat down.
Let's hope I don't die on my two flights with JAL tomorrow.
Let's hope I don't die on my two flights with JAL tomorrow.
#22
Join Date: Jun 2008
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I flew my usual route BKK-KIX last week and experienced the same. I asked the chief to turn down the A/C! It was soo hot I couldn't sleep(and it never got cooler). The blanket stayed in the plastic bag on the floor from the moment I sat down.
Let's hope I don't die on my two flights with JAL tomorrow.
Let's hope I don't die on my two flights with JAL tomorrow.
#23
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CX flights I took inbetween had nice A/C settings. ^
#24
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There's an interesting article i came across about why Japan is so fond of 28C / 82F. I haven't checked the veracity of what's written in it but according to the article, in 2005 the Japanese governent started promoting "cool biz" for summer months in order to save energy. Men would leave their jackets and neckties at home and use short sleeved shirts as well. And in the office, ac temperatures would be set to 28C to save electricity.
Why 28C you ask? It seems that it's because 28C is the limit at which HEATSTROKE doesn't set in. Also it's the legal limit for office temperatures in Japan.
I don't know about you but any temperature that is just about to cause heatstroke certainly sounds hot (and unhealthy) to me.
http://news.infoseek.co.jp/article/20110701jcast20112100257?p=2
There's an interesting article i came across about why Japan is so fond of 28C / 82F. I haven't checked the veracity of what's written in it but according to the article, in 2005 the Japanese governent started promoting "cool biz" for summer months in order to save energy. Men would leave their jackets and neckties at home and use short sleeved shirts as well. And in the office, ac temperatures would be set to 28C to save electricity.
Why 28C you ask? It seems that it's because 28C is the limit at which HEATSTROKE doesn't set in. Also it's the legal limit for office temperatures in Japan.
I don't know about you but any temperature that is just about to cause heatstroke certainly sounds hot (and unhealthy) to me.
http://news.infoseek.co.jp/article/20110701jcast20112100257?p=2
#25
Join Date: Sep 2008
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There's an interesting article i came across about why Japan is so fond of 28C / 82F. I haven't checked the veracity of what's written in it but according to the article, in 2005 the Japanese governent started promoting "cool biz" for summer months in order to save energy. Men would leave their jackets and neckties at home and use short sleeved shirts as well. And in the office, ac temperatures would be set to 28C to save electricity.
Have also heard of the cool biz option
#26
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I flew my usual route BKK-KIX last week and experienced the same. I asked the chief to turn down the A/C! It was soo hot I couldn't sleep(and it never got cooler). The blanket stayed in the plastic bag on the floor from the moment I sat down.
Let's hope I don't die on my two flights with JAL tomorrow.
Let's hope I don't die on my two flights with JAL tomorrow.
AND to ask for a comment form.
#27
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get better health and you wont be complaining about cold
#28
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Flying High and Feeling Good!
There is no need to deny the blankets and sweat shirts with the right conditions in the air plane.
But raising the temperature over 80(82) degrees in a metal tube with lowered pressure, decreased oxygen, and Very LOW humidity is detrimental to the lungs and blood oxygen levels for passengers with or without any degree of Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease. My lungs are normal, but I can feel the difference as the temp reaches 78-80 degrees.
Since the domestic american Pilots are aware of this, and will make adjustments, when they are alerted. Even some of the FA's understand this well enough to notify the Pilots, when alerted. They are too busy with cabin duties to monitor the temp, if there is even a thermometer in the passenger cabins. Thank God for Casio World Time wrist watches with temp readings!
OVERALL, it is healthier to be a bit cooler, then fly in dry hot AIR!
There will be less Jet Lag, tiredness, headaches, shortness of breath, better sleep, and faster recovery!
If you don't believe it, read the review from 787 passengers with or without a digital thermometer wrist watch! ^
Last edited by R&R; Aug 2, 2013 at 8:26 pm
#29
I'm one of the "Americans obsessed with ice" -- I drink ice water even in the winter and have very low tolerance for hot weather.
I've flown on probably about 100 JL flights in the past 10 years, both international and domestic, and I have never felt so uncomfortably warm that I felt the need to mention it to the FAs. The cabin temperature seemed about the same on JL as on any other carrier (except maybe AS, where I once nearly froze to death on a LAX-SEA flight ).
I guess it's all subjective.
-S
I've flown on probably about 100 JL flights in the past 10 years, both international and domestic, and I have never felt so uncomfortably warm that I felt the need to mention it to the FAs. The cabin temperature seemed about the same on JL as on any other carrier (except maybe AS, where I once nearly froze to death on a LAX-SEA flight ).
I guess it's all subjective.
-S