InterContinental Davos, Switzerland - Master Thread (leaving IC on May 31, 2021)
#151
Join Date: May 2008
Location: UK
Programs: IC Spire Amb, Hilton, Marriott, BA, VA.
Posts: 673
At breakfast on our first day it wasn't immediately clear which tables were in use so we sat at a table which wasn't being used for some 10 minutes before realising we needed to sit somewhere else when no cutlery or service of any kind was forthcoming. Not once on any of the 3 days did any staff member proactively ask if we wanted any drinks etc. at breakfast in the 10 to 20 minutes it had taken to be seated, get juices, have some cereal etc. On the Sunday it was so hard to find any staff at all that I had to go to the single staff member manning the arrival station to demand a hot drink after 20 plus minutes waiting.
The repeated nature of our experience in each and every restaurant makes me think we were not unlucky with uniquely slow staff, it was a universal problem. Now if we were in the med where it mightn't be too uncommon to take 3 plus hours to execute a meal service and we were relaxed about that, it might be fine, but in Northern Europe it really isn't. It would have been far worse had I been trying to conduct business rather than relaxing.
I think the overall context sets the scene for everything else, in overall context even my massively laid back wife was unhappy about service standards and it needs to be pretty bad before she starts to moan. That ruined the experience for us. I so wanted to like this property. If you feel your overall xoerience is good it tends to smooth the rough edges, when you think it is bad it tends to sharpen them.
I think the overall context sets the scene for everything else, in overall context even my massively laid back wife was unhappy about service standards and it needs to be pretty bad before she starts to moan. That ruined the experience for us. I so wanted to like this property. If you feel your overall xoerience is good it tends to smooth the rough edges, when you think it is bad it tends to sharpen them.
#152
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MAN and LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC LT Gold, HH Dia, MR LT Plat, IHG Diamond Amb, Amex Plat
Posts: 13,773
We had no choice about where to sit there wasn't a lot of space to choose from so ended up in the area parallel to the cold buffet/fruit area each day. There was never any sort of proactive breakfast service, no one at any point asked what we wanted and I think I would still be in there today waiting to be served If I hadn't flagged down staff myself who evidently did not want me to bother them from their general demeanour.
We couldn't wear layers indoors it was so hot, I couldn't even put on my ski jackets when indoors it was so hot. Never once wore more than a shirt indoors and still found it too hot and heard others in the lounge complaining about exactly the same thing. I prefer to sleep at 17 to 18 degrees and could not get our bedroom temperature anywhere close to this. Oddly though the temperature in our lounge was fine.
Some may see this as a positive but even in ski resorts I have never had a hotel with public areas and rooms so uncomfortably hot. The only respite was to stand outside.
I have emailed the GM about our overall experiences but have little confidence that I will get a response which changes my opinion of the property.
I have had issues with my regular ski resort properties, The Westin Whistler and Westin Mammoth Monache but they pale into insignificance compared to our issues at Davos.
We couldn't wear layers indoors it was so hot, I couldn't even put on my ski jackets when indoors it was so hot. Never once wore more than a shirt indoors and still found it too hot and heard others in the lounge complaining about exactly the same thing. I prefer to sleep at 17 to 18 degrees and could not get our bedroom temperature anywhere close to this. Oddly though the temperature in our lounge was fine.
Some may see this as a positive but even in ski resorts I have never had a hotel with public areas and rooms so uncomfortably hot. The only respite was to stand outside.
I have emailed the GM about our overall experiences but have little confidence that I will get a response which changes my opinion of the property.
I have had issues with my regular ski resort properties, The Westin Whistler and Westin Mammoth Monache but they pale into insignificance compared to our issues at Davos.
Last edited by Land-of-Miles; Mar 18, 2016 at 4:00 am
#153
Join Date: May 2008
Location: UK
Programs: IC Spire Amb, Hilton, Marriott, BA, VA.
Posts: 673
i actually stay around 50 - 60 nights per year at mostly different IC hotels around the world - Davos is one of my favorite, top 3 Hotels. The service is really good, the property mind-blowing and Davos itself amazing for hiking and skiing.
Staying there around 4-5 times per year .... much better than Berchtesgaden ever was..
by the way: we were there last weekend as well ... i am sure we saw you in the lounge - anyway we had delicious swiss raclette at Capricorn Saturday evening
regarding Breakfast on Sunday, yes - i never saw the area busy like that - please note the hotel was fully booked - just 1 room left. For me, i understand that the employees were really busy - if i am busy in my job i appreciate clients who accept and realize the situation...
Staying there around 4-5 times per year .... much better than Berchtesgaden ever was..
by the way: we were there last weekend as well ... i am sure we saw you in the lounge - anyway we had delicious swiss raclette at Capricorn Saturday evening
regarding Breakfast on Sunday, yes - i never saw the area busy like that - please note the hotel was fully booked - just 1 room left. For me, i understand that the employees were really busy - if i am busy in my job i appreciate clients who accept and realize the situation...
Did you end up in the Al Pino spill-over room on Sunday breakfast? We initially were going to decline the table we were shown to in there and wait for a table in Capricorn, but actually it was very well laid out in Al Pino and the staff seem to be coping well so we stayed there.
It truly is a wonderful hotel isn't it! And I never realised how lovely Davos was.
#154
Join Date: May 2008
Location: UK
Programs: IC Spire Amb, Hilton, Marriott, BA, VA.
Posts: 673
We had no choice about where to sit there wasn't a lot of space to choose from so ended up in the area parallel to the cold buffet/fruit area each day. There was never any sort of proactive breakfast service, no one at any point asked what we wanted and I think I would still be in there today waiting to be served If I hadn't flagged down staff myself who evidently did not want me to bother them from their general demeanour.
We couldn't wear layers indoors it was so hot, I couldn't even put on my ski jackets when indoors it was so hot. Never once wore more than a shirt indoors and still found it too hot and heard others in the lounge complaining about exactly the same thing. I prefer to sleep at 17 to 18 degrees and could not get our room temperature anywhere close to this.
Some may see this as a positive but even in ski resorts I have never had a hotel with public areas and rooms so uncomfortably hot. The only respite was to stand outside.
I have emailed the GM about our overall experiences but have little confidence that I will get a response which changes my opinion of the property.
I have had issues with my regular ski resort properties, The Westin Whistler and Westin Mammoth Monache but they pale into insignificance compared to our issues at Davos.
We couldn't wear layers indoors it was so hot, I couldn't even put on my ski jackets when indoors it was so hot. Never once wore more than a shirt indoors and still found it too hot and heard others in the lounge complaining about exactly the same thing. I prefer to sleep at 17 to 18 degrees and could not get our room temperature anywhere close to this.
Some may see this as a positive but even in ski resorts I have never had a hotel with public areas and rooms so uncomfortably hot. The only respite was to stand outside.
I have emailed the GM about our overall experiences but have little confidence that I will get a response which changes my opinion of the property.
I have had issues with my regular ski resort properties, The Westin Whistler and Westin Mammoth Monache but they pale into insignificance compared to our issues at Davos.
#159
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SIN (LEJ once a year)
Programs: SQ, LH, BA, IHG Diamond AMB, HH Gold, SLH Indulged, Accor Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,741
Land-of-Miles - don't despair . I can fully echo your observations (aside from the hotel / rooms being too hot). Admittedly, I was there in Jan 2015 for 5 nights and your observations about the breakfast chaos (pick your own table when most are still full of dishes and items - so free or not?) and the painfully slow service in the restaurants, a messy not looked after "lounge" and a general aura of disorganization. Concierge service was great for me (must have been the tips that greased the wheels ) and after the first poor in-house restaurant experience we ate outside every lunch and dinner (e.g. Restaurant Kulm was fantastic, we went 3 times).
I also dealt with Markus T. (Guest Services Manager) after I shared my observations and experiences post stay (he was on leave when I was there) and he is great and fixed a lot of things and provided a good amount of IHG points to make up for it (without me asking). Well recovered.
I would still return as I like the hotel and do agree that most issues are (under) staffing related, but these days Switzerland is a bit rich in cost and I will rather go to Austria. YMMV.
I also dealt with Markus T. (Guest Services Manager) after I shared my observations and experiences post stay (he was on leave when I was there) and he is great and fixed a lot of things and provided a good amount of IHG points to make up for it (without me asking). Well recovered.
I would still return as I like the hotel and do agree that most issues are (under) staffing related, but these days Switzerland is a bit rich in cost and I will rather go to Austria. YMMV.
#161
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SIN (with a bit of ZRH sprinkled in)
Posts: 9,456
Tipping isn't mandatory in Switzerland (and in fact, most people just do round up - if it was fantastic round up more generously) and a property that only offers good service after you give them EXTRA money (not that they're cheap without it) in Switzerland is pretty much dead. No wonder the hotel already went bancrupt once if that's their modus operandi.. (and cheated out on paying local small companies that delivered them with goods)
#162
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MAN and LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC LT Gold, HH Dia, MR LT Plat, IHG Diamond Amb, Amex Plat
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Land-of-Miles - don't despair . I can fully echo your observations (aside from the hotel / rooms being too hot). Admittedly, I was there in Jan 2015 for 5 nights and your observations about the breakfast chaos (pick your own table when most are still full of dishes and items - so free or not?) and the painfully slow service in the restaurants, a messy not looked after "lounge" and a general aura of disorganization. Concierge service was great for me (must have been the tips that greased the wheels ) and after the first poor in-house restaurant experience we ate outside every lunch and dinner (e.g. Restaurant Kulm was fantastic, we went 3 times).
I also dealt with Markus T. (Guest Services Manager) after I shared my observations and experiences post stay (he was on leave when I was there) and he is great and fixed a lot of things and provided a good amount of IHG points to make up for it (without me asking). Well recovered.
I would still return as I like the hotel and do agree that most issues are (under) staffing related, but these days Switzerland is a bit rich in cost and I will rather go to Austria. YMMV.
I also dealt with Markus T. (Guest Services Manager) after I shared my observations and experiences post stay (he was on leave when I was there) and he is great and fixed a lot of things and provided a good amount of IHG points to make up for it (without me asking). Well recovered.
I would still return as I like the hotel and do agree that most issues are (under) staffing related, but these days Switzerland is a bit rich in cost and I will rather go to Austria. YMMV.
Ultimately if the management feel I was just unlucky (which in fairness they have not implied) then I don't see how things would improve. This property could be really outstanding if they fix the glitches, all the foundations are there in terms of the fit out and infrastructure, it just needs to be run better.
#163
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SIN (LEJ once a year)
Programs: SQ, LH, BA, IHG Diamond AMB, HH Gold, SLH Indulged, Accor Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,741
Tipping isn't mandatory in Switzerland (and in fact, most people just do round up - if it was fantastic round up more generously) and a property that only offers good service after you give them EXTRA money (not that they're cheap without it) in Switzerland is pretty much dead. No wonder the hotel already went bancrupt once if that's their modus operandi.. (and cheated out on paying local small companies that delivered them with goods)
#164
Join Date: Jun 2011
Programs: TK Elite, BA Gold, Skyteam Elite Plus, IHG Spire AMB, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 162
#165
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: EWN/OAJ/RDU/ILM (Formerly BTV)
Programs: HH D i a m o n d !!!
Posts: 356
By far the nicest hotel my wife and I have ever stayed in! All for ~ $9 worth of stamps and ~$2 of 3x5" cards!
Now they just need some snow