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AA_EXP09 May 25, 2012 9:43 pm

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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL (Post 18643568)
I've always been with US simply because they are the legacy carrier with best service to PVD, and usually most affordable as well. The fact that Dividend miles is one of the better programs out there was just a bonus.


Now, I've moved my FFP to A3, and I haven't looked back. Redemptions aren't great, but having *G beats *S any day. Still flying US though. Next itinerary is BUR-PHX-BOS in a few months when I go back Stateside.

I hate the 50% earning in K though for A3.
Now if only TODs booked into revenue F (which, IMO, should happen as it is revenue F.)
After the 16.5K miles from * challenge, I will have 50K AC miles.
Which, I will then stop collecting.
(I have credited some RDM for some spending in Canada.)

exbayern May 25, 2012 10:07 pm

I credit to UA first to reach 1K (don't fly them anymore, but use the mileage awards). Then I credit to either AC or LH. With LH one needs to reach status every other year, so I put more in AC in 'off' years when I don't need to credit to LH.

But I may be flying more BA and AirBerlin in future :eek: although *A really gets me where I need to get to go, and generally I'm still happy with my plan.

Seems like most programs are devaluing quickly.

UA Fan May 25, 2012 11:49 pm

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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL (Post 18643568)
I've always been with US simply because they are the legacy carrier with best service to PVD, and usually most affordable as well. The fact that Dividend miles is one of the better programs out there was just a bonus.


Now, I've moved my FFP to A3, and I haven't looked back. Redemptions aren't great, but having *G beats *S any day. Still flying US though. Next itinerary is BUR-PHX-BOS in a few months when I go back Stateside.

How about flying US but crediting UA?

PVDtoDEL May 26, 2012 2:44 am

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Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 18644402)
How about flying US but crediting UA?

There's no point. I would have lost the US upgrades (which were surprisingly frequent as a silver, about 25% of the time).

But with A3, I don't even have to worry about either of them. *G is enough for me.

Keyser May 26, 2012 6:54 am

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Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 18597403)
separate tickets....with my past experiences at lhr, i think i'm just going to check in separately for both flights....i do not have fond memories of either ba or lhr from my past travels....

just a follow up....terrible terrible experience at heathrow with air france....

ba refused to through check my bags from jfk - cdg since i was on seperate tickets on different carriers....no problem since i expected that....

so i checked in my bags from jfk - lhr & had to clear immigration & pick up my bags when i landed at lhr....transferring from terminal 5 to 4 is a nightmare....no wonder i avoided this airport for so long....

i finally get to terminal 4 well in time to check-in on af from lhr - cdg....i go to the check-in counter & the agent there informs me that i am only allowed 30kgs of checked in baggage total per passenger....i tell her that their website states 2 bags of 32kgs each in business class but she refuses to budge from her stance....after about 30 minutes of back & forth where she refuses to call a supervisor in person (she only spoke with one over the phone) she gives me an ultimatum that i can either pay the excess baggage fee & check-in for my flight or miss my flight as it was getting too late....i decide to pay the £96 & deal with it later....

i get to the my gate with just a couple of minutes left for boarding & i learn that my boarding pass has been flagged since my checked in baggage has been put on standby for some reason....since the flight is just about to close i am given the option of either flying without my bags or taking the next flight with my bags....i opt for the later since i have my suit & documents in my checked-in bag which i need for my meeting later on in the day....

i then make my way back to baggage claim to pick up my bags & then go back to the check-in counter & finally track down a supervisor....he apologizes for the misinformed agent & tells me i was correct about my baggage allowance earlier on....but he refuses to acknowledge their fault in me missing my flight & says i would have to buy another ticket for the next flight....once again, being pressed for time since i was now in danger on missing my meeting in paris, i decided to pay & deal with it later....i end up paying £280 for a one way ticket & this time in economy so when i go to check in i am informed that my check-in allowance is now 23kgs per bag & if i checked in heavier bags then i would have to pay a further £180....i again have to get the supervisor involved but they refuse to budge on the excess baggage fee....i finally shift the weight around in my bags to get the balance right & manage to check-in....

i make it to paris just in time for my meeting but am now going to take this issue up with air france next week....if it can't be resolved easily then i am ready to take them to court if i have to....

this is definitely the last time i am transferring via heathrow....

AA_EXP09 May 26, 2012 7:49 am

This was the problem of AF, not LHR.
AAgents there have been very good.

Keyser May 26, 2012 10:21 am

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Originally Posted by AA_EXP09 (Post 18645381)
This was the problem of AF, not LHR.
AAgents there have been very good.

i didn't even mention the lhr part because the post was getting too long....no help at immigration even when i told them i was running late for my flight....transferring between terminals is a pain....you have to take a train from terminal 5 to the central terminal, change trains & then catch a train to terminal 4....no luggage carts allowed inside the trains so you have to off load your luggage at each station & then drag it to your train....i have traveled on air france many times & they are only bad in lhr....security takes forever....they like to check everything you put on the tray....they flagged my bag the second time over even though they didn't find anything in it but it took them 20 minutes to check it....almost missed my second flight as well....

AA_EXP09 May 26, 2012 10:42 am

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Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 18645928)
i didn't even mention the lhr part because the post was getting too long....no help at immigration even when i told them i was running late for my flight....transferring between terminals is a pain....you have to take a train from terminal 5 to the central terminal, change trains & then catch a train to terminal 4....no luggage carts allowed inside the trains so you have to off load your luggage at each station & then drag it to your train....i have traveled on air france many times & they are only bad in lhr....security takes forever....they like to check everything you put on the tray....they flagged my bag the second time over even though they didn't find anything in it but it took them 20 minutes to check it....almost missed my second flight as well....

Security in LAX is just as bad.
Immigration took how long?

Keyser May 26, 2012 11:06 am

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Originally Posted by AA_EXP09 (Post 18646008)
Security in LAX is just as bad.
Immigration took how long?

went through lax twice this month....no problems there....immigration took an hour because the fast track line had only one agent at the booth....bout 45 minutes in they got a second agent so that made things a little better....

AA_EXP09 May 26, 2012 11:20 am

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Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 18646099)
went through lax twice this month....no problems there....immigration took an hour because the fast track line had only one agent at the booth....bout 45 minutes in they got a second agent so that made things a little better....

Where? TBIT?

Keyser May 26, 2012 11:35 am

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Originally Posted by AA_EXP09 (Post 18646152)
Where? TBIT?

terminal 1 & 7 at lax....

onlysuites May 26, 2012 12:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 18645209)
just a follow up....terrible terrible experience at heathrow with air france......

I have had a couple of bad experiences with AF too but nothing compared to what you faced.

exbayern May 26, 2012 2:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 18645209)
ba refused to through check my bags from jfk - cdg since i was on seperate tickets on different carriers....no problem since i expected that....

ARGH!!!!

I booked a *A to BA flight (two seperate tickets) last night and then regretted it. Z class fare was about 30% lower than usual, so I decided to take the risk.

But doing a LHR terminal transfer AND reclaiming and rechecking bags just isn't worth it. Plus it is to NCE, where I always have issues with BA and interlining and bag not appearing.

Sorry that your experience was so bad; now I am off to cancel my ticket and rebook it at a much, much higher fare. :(

onlysuites May 26, 2012 2:24 pm

BA is horrible at interlining checked in luggage unless on one ticket. 99.9% of the time they won't do it.

exbayern May 26, 2012 2:50 pm

This would actually not start on BA, but even on one ticket *A to BA they don't deliver it in NCE. *A to *A no issue in NCE, but *A to BA always an issue.

I vowed after my April trip to avoid LHR until after August. I'm not that patient, and frankly the mess that is T3 and T5 was already bad in April; cannot imagine it over this summer. :eek:

But LH is trying to route me via TXL, which is interesting. (On a date after their original closure date, which is now delayed) I may go via TXL just to see that airport one more time.

My other option is to use BA all the way through, which means a somewhat easier LHR transfer, but it also means moving away from *A. For a flyer with Germany, India, Canada and other strong *A destinations on the regular schedule, I really am struggling to see if that makes sense. I can usually get where I need to go on the LH group plus AC and a few assorted other carriers.


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