WoH 2023 Category Changes to Take Effect on Mar 28
Mar 8, 2023, 9:41 pm
#166
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Programs: UA 1MM, AA Plat, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob, IHG ♢ Amb, Hilton ♢, Hertz Pres
Posts: 6,017
Now that my 1.5 years as a GLOB light are over, I can honestly say that most of my GLOB upgrades were very underwhelming, and probably about the same as I would get as a Discoverist (1 category -> higher floor). The free breakfast was a nice perk, but most of the breakfasts were quite monotonous and not something I would consider paying for. The treatment in Europe was definitely better than North America, and that was the only place where I ever saw the inside of a suite or had a decent breakfast. Sadly, I never got a chance to go to Asia in that time due to the restrictions. The most disappointing part was the lounges. This was surely somewhat due to Covid, but even when they returned to "normal," they were a far cry from what I have experienced from IC and even Hilton.
The only real value I consistently got from GLOB was getting the resort fees waived, but that is another perk that is pretty worthless to people primarily staying in lower-tier and less-desirable locations. Now that Hyatt keeps weakening the point value and IHG has finally improved their top tier, I would honestly need to reconsider if I should keep with Hyatt or revert to IHG as my program of choice. I get DISC from my CC, and EXP doesn't seem to be any better than DISC, aside from the M-Life match to Gold. I really see no point in going out of my way to stay in Hyatt at this point.
The only real value I consistently got from GLOB was getting the resort fees waived, but that is another perk that is pretty worthless to people primarily staying in lower-tier and less-desirable locations. Now that Hyatt keeps weakening the point value and IHG has finally improved their top tier, I would honestly need to reconsider if I should keep with Hyatt or revert to IHG as my program of choice. I get DISC from my CC, and EXP doesn't seem to be any better than DISC, aside from the M-Life match to Gold. I really see no point in going out of my way to stay in Hyatt at this point.
I have the opposite experience. Free breakfast, beautiful Suites (due to TSUs not as often due to free suite upgrades), no resort fees, nice lounges - this chain is a nice competitor to Marriott (and really the only competitor to Marriott). It's footprint is too small yet they allow us to use their cc to get the add'l nights to achieve Glob. All in all, a good program (not as good as SPG used to be) but solid (outside the US). If you're US centric (pun intended), then you'll find the program underwhelming. But globally it holds it's own although the footprint makes it somewhat difficult. At least for US based people the cc makes up that diff. Redemptions outside the US have been 2.8 cents per for me over the past 6 months. Very solid.
I'll stay and will continue to try to achieve Glob for 2024. Until they go the way of Hilton... I'll likely keep them as my primary chain (alongside Marriott). Where else you gonna go? Hilton? IHG? Puhlease. Hyatt & Marriott are the only games in town nowadays. Although IHG with Diamond and Ambassador is at least competitive at ICs only. But that footprint and the IC prices make them a distant 3rd.
Mar 9, 2023, 7:20 am
#168
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Programs: UA 1MM, AA Plat, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob, IHG ♢ Amb, Hilton ♢, Hertz Pres
Posts: 6,017
As to redemptions, Marriott gets me greater than 1 penny per... while with Hilton you're going to get 20-30% less (maximum). Usually less.
Now downinit was asking about IHG vs Hyatt - I was the one who threw Hilton in there. Hard to see, however, how Hilton can be considered close to Hyatt at all. And as I see it, not close to Marriott either. It isn't even close to ICs at IHG (if you're a Diamond Ambassador). Hilton does beat the other brands at IHG however (imo).
What are you seeing at Hilton that puts them ahead of Marriott?
Mar 9, 2023, 7:54 am
#169
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: AUS
Programs: BAEC Gold, AA PPro, Hyatt Globalist, Amex Plat
Posts: 7,043
Regards
Last edited by scubadu; Mar 9, 2023 at 8:18 am
Mar 9, 2023, 9:27 am
#170
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin
Programs: AA Platinum 4MM; Marriott Titanium; Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 324
Mar 9, 2023, 9:55 am
#171
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,333
Pretty obvious that we were not staying in the same places, as I was obviously not stealing anyone's suite upgrades. 2021-22 were the only years I really traveled at all domestically in the USA anyway due to Covid. I got plenty of value from the Healthcare Hero rate, so I won't complain too much. Just disappointed because I always thought GLOB would be more rewarding from all the hype in here.
Mar 9, 2023, 9:59 am
#172
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Programs: MB Ambassador, WOH Globalist, HH Diamond (Aspire), AA Gold, UA (*G) Gold
Posts: 5,169
Some people don't stay at limited service properties, and it's not like there aren't crappy HPs and HHs and good Fairfields and Courtyards (not going to comment on Holiday Inn as I have no experience).
Mar 9, 2023, 10:42 am
#173
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Philadelphia
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,790
Pretty obvious that we were not staying in the same places, as I was obviously not stealing anyone's suite upgrades. 2021-22 were the only years I really traveled at all domestically in the USA anyway due to Covid. I got plenty of value from the Healthcare Hero rate, so I won't complain too much. Just disappointed because I always thought GLOB would be more rewarding from all the hype in here.
If it's too good, it probably is, or it will get worse as more people find out about it.
Mar 9, 2023, 10:49 am
#174
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Programs: MB Ambassador, WOH Globalist, HH Diamond (Aspire), AA Gold, UA (*G) Gold
Posts: 5,169
Pretty obvious that we were not staying in the same places, as I was obviously not stealing anyone's suite upgrades. 2021-22 were the only years I really traveled at all domestically in the USA anyway due to Covid. I got plenty of value from the Healthcare Hero rate, so I won't complain too much. Just disappointed because I always thought GLOB would be more rewarding from all the hype in here.
Mar 9, 2023, 12:04 pm
#175
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,171
Honestly, no offense, think it's pretty clear you have both outlier good Marriott and outlier bad Hyatt experiences. Not that common a combo.
Mar 9, 2023, 12:13 pm
#176
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Philadelphia
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,790
I'm about 10% proactive upgrade and another 10% if I ask.
Mar 9, 2023, 12:16 pm
#177
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Programs: MB Ambassador, WOH Globalist, HH Diamond (Aspire), AA Gold, UA (*G) Gold
Posts: 5,169
Well, that's even worse than my performance.
Mar 9, 2023, 3:28 pm
#178
Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: San Diego,CA
Posts: 10,088
*What I would say the basic focal points are below as follows
*Determine occupancy for your intended dates
*Know the business culture of the property are they Globe friendly?
*Does the property typically have much suite inventory to upgrade too
*Does the property know you from past stays have you built requests in your profile of what your favorite room suite types are @ the given property?
*Don't be afraid to call them out if upgraded rooms and suites are available.
*Do not depend exclusively on the Hyatt Concierge team some of the time select hotels consider them next to being beggars for elites sad but true.(Take a guess which properties)
*Be the guest you would want if you owned or managed the hotel.Say please thank you tip well and show appreciation especially when you wish to return.
If all else fails.Call Hyatt Consumer Affairs if it matters and have them intervene if you can confirm they are being dishonest
(did it once in 30 years) Typically unnecessary
Rinse repeat all of the above where necessary and appropriate
Last edited by 777 global mile hound; Mar 9, 2023 at 3:37 pm
Mar 9, 2023, 6:20 pm
#179
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Taipei
Posts: 1,126
We're 2 out of 11 on suite upgrades at participating Hyatts without using TSU. At Hyatt House we're actually 1 for 1 (from a studio to a 1 bedroom) A few times there was suite availability during the day but by the time we checked in late at night it was gone.
Mar 9, 2023, 9:06 pm
#180
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Programs: UA 1MM, AA Plat, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob, IHG ♢ Amb, Hilton ♢, Hertz Pres
Posts: 6,017
Pretty obvious that we were not staying in the same places, as I was obviously not stealing anyone's suite upgrades. 2021-22 were the only years I really traveled at all domestically in the USA anyway due to Covid. I got plenty of value from the Healthcare Hero rate, so I won't complain too much. Just disappointed because I always thought GLOB would be more rewarding from all the hype in here.